That's only if you use the old school way of judging production, by R and RBI. R and RBI are team and teammate dependant. They don't show as much of what the player did than as much as what the team is doing. The only thing the player can control is his own production, which is measured much more effectively in AVG/OBP/SGL terms than in counting R and RBI. i guess my definition of "production" and yours are different. To me, it doesn't matter if you're OPS'ing 1.200 if you aren't generating runs (by either scoring them or knocking them in). As I said, the higher OPS player is more likely to create runs in the future, but that wasn't the question of the poll. With the question being "who was the MVP of the first quarter", who would you say was more valuable, a guy who has 40 runs, 50 RBI, and an OPS of .850, or a guy with 20 runs, 25 RBI and an OPS of 1.080 The guy with the 1.080 OPS. The guy with 40 runs and 50 RBI either played in a better lineup, hit in a better spot (say 3rd, rather than 6th), or was very lucky (high AVG with RISP or something). But the guy with the 1.000+ OPS played better that year, which I think is important when you're giving out an award for the guy that played the best. so you'd take an 1.080 OPS guy who isn't actually adding much to the runs on the board over an .800 one who is? This is asninine Um...asinine? Wow. I'll tell you what's asinine. Rewarding players individually for being surrounded by other good players. Using your logic, in 2005, Andruw Jones was at least as valuable, if not more so, than DLee. Jones had a .347/.575/.922 line, but scored 95 R and drove in 128. Lee had a 1.080 OPS, scored 120, but only drove in 107. He's a #3 hitter, so his job is more to drive them in than score them himself. So because Lee had a combination of CPatt, Neifi, etc hitting in front of him, he's less valuable. As if he wouldn't have led the league in RBI by quite some distance if he were on the Braves that year. Don't use this logic and then call me asinine.