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theo needs to be first on the marquee He's not Larry Lucchino. He doesn't have to stand in front of Hoyer to feel respected.

It's Jebadore. I may set up a word filter for it.

sleuthing for atm on the internet is nsfw Obvious, but nicely done.

My post was not in regards to his wife.

Solid. Not flashy but good value bet. Go Jebadore go.

This is great. Trouble selling out the title game. http://outkickthecoverage.com/big-ten-paying-fans-75-to-attend-inaugural-title-game.php

that's my sulley-like effort to talk myself through upcoming disappointment. i like to get in front of it before it happens. That's what she said?

Hey guys, remember when imb used to be fun? Or better yet, funny? remember when gr didn't get butthurt and irrational anytime notre dame was mentioned hahaha jk "GRADUATING IS VERY IMPORTANT TO TEO'S FAMILY!!!!!!!!" *tears flow* is this [expletive] serious Remember when imb didn't freak out before OU played a game when they were overrated? huh That may be an outside nsbb reference but don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about.

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Hey guys, remember when imb used to be fun? Or better yet, funny? remember when gr didn't get butthurt and irrational anytime notre dame was mentioned hahaha jk "GRADUATING IS VERY IMPORTANT TO TEO'S FAMILY!!!!!!!!" *tears flow* is this [expletive] serious Remember when imb didn't freak out before OU played a game when they were overrated? Teo picked ND over USC when he woke up at like 4am on signing day and god told him to go to ND. Is this how I make life plans? No it is not (maybe it should be, given that he's maybe the best MLB in cfb). But that's important to him and his family. I'd think millions of dollars could change mama's mind, but maybe not.

I disagree. I thought they, overall, looked better in the beginning of the year, but the stupid turnovers (and some bad luck) really did them in against South Florida and Michigan. Up until USC, they were clearly the best team on the field in each game. Starting with USC and continuing through Saturday, the lack of depth and poor QB play really did them in. November consisted of too close games against crappy major conference teams and a poor showing against Stanford. Not sure how someone would think that's good. I said except Rees. Jonas Gray was a new man until his knee blew out. The secondary looked better, esp after the UM debacle. Where they looked bad was where they lost key starters including C and both DEs. But the kids looked much better late in the year than in September when, for example, Aaron Lynch was almost solely a pass rusher. Well, I guess guys like Aaron Lynch played better later in the year, but overall they looked clearly overmatched against both USC and Stanford. Early in the season, they dominated two good teams in MSU and Michigan for 7 quarters (excluding the 4th quarter against Michigan when Gary Gray forgot how to play football). Overall, a pretty disappointing season as they were a top 10-15 team in the country based on talent. Can't really expect an improvement next year, as both Floyd and Te'o are gone, and this team makes too many mistakes to trust the coaching staff. With Floyd and Gray gone, I think they need to go with Hendrix to have any shot at a dynamic offense. Teo will be back. He's not a first round pick right now. And he skipped his mission to graduate from ND. I don't think his mom will let him leave early. The starter will be Hendrix or Golson. Neither was ready to play big minutes this year. With Floyd gone, it'd be great to land another big time WR recruit, but they have depth there. And hopefully GAIII will look as good at RB as he has returning punts. The OL and Rees didn't play well against USC. Teo had a poor game too. But the OL did after that. They struggled with a pretty average Pitt team in September bc Rees was terrible. Struggled against a poor BC team with a solid defense for the same reason. Actually, they only didn't blow out Wake bc Rees struggled there too. Dominated some pretty average to poor teams in Navy, AF, and Maryland at different times during the year. If you think they were overmatched against Stanford, you were watching a different game. They looked better against UM and MSU bc those two teams aren't as good as USC and Stanford. Teo is #15 on Kiper's Big Board. Coupled with the problems he's had with Kelly, I'd be very surprised if he returns. As for WR, they already have Ferguson out of Florida, and got Davaris Daniels last year. Neither, of course, is as good as Floyd, but certainly provides some hope. As for the Stanford game, the defense played pretty well, but the secondary is still a weakness and it shows against QB's like Luck and Barkley. ND is slowly building talent on both sides of the ball to compete with the best teams in the country, but I think they'll be stuck in the 15-25 range until they can get a good QB and some more depth. Hopefully Kelly's bet on the USC game didn't kill the recruiting class this year. Clausen was #1 on Kiper's big board. Quinn was in his top 5, I think. And graduating is more important to Teo's family than his love or hate for Kelly. The secondary was the next biggest need to improve after DL. The have 2 of the top CBs in the country coming in, so hopefully they help right away. Though I think the need for an OLB that can play in space is big. They have a true freshman BK loves for that spot. Hope he develops quickly. As for development, Gray had a shot at and NFL roster before the knee injury, H Smith developed into a stud SS, and Floyd became faster and a more complete WR, just to name a few. It'll be fun to see what they can do with guys that fit their offense and defense after 2 years in the system.

Did I hear Petersen's son's primary doc joined the ucla med center? Maybe he's more open now.

I think similar logic applies this year no matter who the opponent is. If LSU wins on Saturday, they've far and away proven they have the best resume in the country. Whether it's Alabama, or OSU, or even Virginia Tech, a team beating LSU in a close game is going to lead to the sentiment that LSU is still the #1 team in the country. Personally, I don't think there should be a rematch as long as OSU wins because they would have the superior resume. So hopefully OSU wins big and Virginia Tech loses(Houston losing wouldn't hurt too) so we can get that LSU-OSU matchup. Two best resumes, two conference champions from the two best conferences this year. Maybe. If OSU or Va Tech beats LSU by 2 TDs, I think that's a pretty good argument that they should be #1 (and maybe the same is true for Bama). I agree with your hope for OSU and I think it'll be an interesting game.

Me neither.

Hey guys, remember when imb used to be fun? Or better yet, funny?

i agree with that, but telling alabama they can't have a bcs bowl at all seems ridiculous. I'll tell Nick Saban right to his face.

Bama is probably the 2nd best team in the country. Tough break for them that they're in the same division as the best team. So question, if LSU wins this weekend and Bama stays at #2, what happens if Bama beats LSU by 3, say in overtime, at a neutral site in the title game. Is Bama #1? Is LSU's victory at Bama more significant than Bama's equal victory at a neutral site? Obviously, it's unlikely that this exact scenario would play out, but Bama could win a very close matchup in the title game. That's one big issue I have with a rematch for the title.

Are you saying that Bama shouldn't even be in the BCS or are you only referring to a rematch with LSU in the title game? Both. Neither. Bama should be out of the BCS bowls entirely b/c they couldn't win their division. I realize it would keep some really good teams out of the BCS and that's unfortunate for those teams. But every year, good teams are kept out of the BCS. Hard for Bama to complain when they had a shot. But Saban's already whining about how unfair it will be if Bama doesn't get in the title game, so he'd love my plan.

Trading Garza would put my Jebadore love to the test pretty early.

Bama had a shot at LSU at home. Tough break. No BCS. Again, the system screws teams every year and the more divisions, the more chance that an undeserving team gets an autobid. If you have that benefit, bear more risk.

I disagree. I thought they, overall, looked better in the beginning of the year, but the stupid turnovers (and some bad luck) really did them in against South Florida and Michigan. Up until USC, they were clearly the best team on the field in each game. Starting with USC and continuing through Saturday, the lack of depth and poor QB play really did them in. November consisted of too close games against crappy major conference teams and a poor showing against Stanford. Not sure how someone would think that's good. I said except Rees. Jonas Gray was a new man until his knee blew out. The secondary looked better, esp after the UM debacle. Where they looked bad was where they lost key starters including C and both DEs. But the kids looked much better late in the year than in September when, for example, Aaron Lynch was almost solely a pass rusher. Well, I guess guys like Aaron Lynch played better later in the year, but overall they looked clearly overmatched against both USC and Stanford. Early in the season, they dominated two good teams in MSU and Michigan for 7 quarters (excluding the 4th quarter against Michigan when Gary Gray forgot how to play football). Overall, a pretty disappointing season as they were a top 10-15 team in the country based on talent. Can't really expect an improvement next year, as both Floyd and Te'o are gone, and this team makes too many mistakes to trust the coaching staff. With Floyd and Gray gone, I think they need to go with Hendrix to have any shot at a dynamic offense. Teo will be back. He's not a first round pick right now. And he skipped his mission to graduate from ND. I don't think his mom will let him leave early. The starter will be Hendrix or Golson. Neither was ready to play big minutes this year. With Floyd gone, it'd be great to land another big time WR recruit, but they have depth there. And hopefully GAIII will look as good at RB as he has returning punts. The OL and Rees didn't play well against USC. Teo had a poor game too. But the OL did after that. They struggled with a pretty average Pitt team in September bc Rees was terrible. Struggled against a poor BC team with a solid defense for the same reason. Actually, they only didn't blow out Wake bc Rees struggled there too. Dominated some pretty average to poor teams in Navy, AF, and Maryland at different times during the year. If you think they were overmatched against Stanford, you were watching a different game. They looked better against UM and MSU bc those two teams aren't as good as USC and Stanford.

You didn't directly refute anything. You claimed they looked better in November and I pointed out you may think that because they played a series of bad teams. I know ND fans are incredibly sensitive to perceived criticism but you are making a much bigger deal out of what I said than is reasonable. Two different arguments jersey, as I said before.

That's a ridiculous hypo. You're only saying that because it makes your opinion look completely idiotic. You think a 9-4 South Carolina deserved a BCS spot over a 10-2 Arkansas in 2010 even though Arkansas went to South Carolina and handed out a 41-20 beatdown? You think a 9-4 Missouri deserved a BCS spot over a 11-1 Texas in 2008 even though Texas beat Missouri 56-31? You think 7-5 Colorado deserved a BCS spot over 10-1 Texas in 2004 even though Texas beat Colorado 31-7? No, I think it's ridiculous bc it presents a false choice. I think Georgia, for example, deserves a BCS game over Stanford. I don't have to pick between two schools you cherry pick when there are several other candidates each year. I think schools in divisions should have to win their division to go to a BCS game. Makes it more sporting. If someone is going to get fucked each year, it should be a team that couldn't win it's division. Or do you think UConn deserved to go to a BCS game last year? bc you support the current system, you must support the selection of every [expletive] team that gets in bc of it.

Yes, historically ND has played one of the toughest schedules in the country. And they don't play very many minor conference teams at all other than the academies. But typically their schedule has had a really tough September and then some weakness in October/November before the USC game (or if the USC game is in October some weakness other than one other strong October/November game). When does ND play the academies? Typically mid-October or later. They've also played some weak Big East/ACC teams during that time and those have usually been late in the season. Most schools schedules are much weaker in the first half than the second half. ND usually has the opposite. That's all I meant by the comment. I take issue with your comment about historical schedules. ND has always played the big ten early bc the big ten requires it. Maybe you think of big ten as better opponents, so that's why you think it's weighted heavy in September. ND has often scheduled other teams, like PSU, BC, Miami, FSU, and obviously USC and Stanford later in the season. Getting schools from the south to play in the cold in November is not easy, made more difficult by growing conferences requiring 9 game schedules, and bc SEC teams reserve 1 OOC cupcake for November. But if you look back at the pre-White years, I don't think you'll see cupcakes on ND's schedule every November. You seen to suggest that ND schedules a bunch of cupcakes before USC, which just doesn't have any support. I'm more talking about the BCS era. Trying to look how teams scheduled before that is pretty pointless IMO because the BCS changed how schedules are done dramatically. PSU hasn't played Notre Dame since 1992. They haven't scheduled Miami in over 20 years (until next year). They play Florida State pretty rarely. And BC and Stanford are not at the level of Michigan or maybe even Michigan State. In the BCS era, the first half of Notre Dame's schedules most years has been stronger. It's mostly not their fault. As you mentioned, it's hard for them to schedule games in November when it's cold and when other teams are deep in their conference season. They've also gotten unlucky at times (that series with Tennessee was mostly a bust but it looked promising at the time it was scheduled). But it still has been true of them. Looking at their future schedules, in 2012 the back half appears to be harder. 2013 looks front heavy (after the USC game it goes way downhill). The 2014 schedule just looks weak overall, 2015 looks front heavy, 2016 looks front heavy, and after that there are too many games not scheduled. Well, BCS is like 20 years out of 100? The early 1900s aren't relevant, but that's an important distinction you left out. They played PSU very recently - 05? Weis got [expletive] for a fake punt in the 3rd quarter or something. They've played Stanford every year for what, 2 decades? BC has been a regular opponent for almost that long (with a couple breaks). Pitt is a common opponent in October or November. And Stanford has been better than UM the last 2 years. MSU has rarely been a great team, though until the last 2 years, ND caught them right before the wheels came off. I wouldn't say MSU has regularly been one of ND's top several opponents. As for future schedules, there is no glut of cupcakes late in November as you suggest. 2013: navy, Pitt, BYU, tbd, Stanford. 2014: Pitt, NW, tbd (BYU, I think), USC. 2015: Wake, Pitt, Cuse, Stanford. I think you give UM and MSU too much weight. The timing of tough games on ND's schedule depend largely on which teams are having good to great years.