i'm thinking you're looking at the wrong WAR (especially for a guy savvy enough to be concerned with his peripherals) also, that wouldn't be what translates into "he has to be worth like a shade over 2 wins per season." what translates into that is the fact that he's making $16M a year and that means he needs to meet or exceed around 2-2.3 WAR per season. A "wrong" WAR? Ha! "As a result of the differences listed above, rWAR values typically come in lower than fWAR values, meaning a 6 rWAR is more impressive than 6 fWAR. But it’s worth noting that the two systems are more alike than they are different, and that their different calculations should be viewed as a feature, not a bug." Back to my original statement, it translates into the fact that he has performed at 2 wins above replacement level in two of his previous 6 seasons. Right? fWAR is more peripheral (FIP) based. rWAR/bWAR is more outcome based (so a rWAR/bWAR total would be inflated by a good ERA even if it was achieved by outperforming peripherals). the wins i was referring to were fWAR...so even going by what you posted (the part in bold), that would make the rWAR threshold lower. I know exactly what the difference between them is. I stated rWAR, and now I'll spell it out. 2 of his last 6 seasons, according to his rWAR, were above average. He's by no means a lock to be average...not even taking into consideration his age.