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This board really rocked two years ago in the playoffs. those were some great times. hopefully we will have that kind of atmosphere again soon. No matter what the doom and gloomers say it shouldn't be too hard after all the NL sucks and we have money.

hell no they wouldn't look at that boob guillen showing the choke sign ot the indians. way to go ozzie, you are supposed to be part of the white sox management.

So we miss the worst team in baseball and the cardinals get them twice. God get rid of this stupid interleague crap.

I would go with who(whom)?ever the Cardinals are using. Be it Vina, Hart, Womack, or Eckstein they all seem to get much better after putting on the two birds uniform. Rickey would have had a .457/757/1890 line for them :wink:

Hey now we still have the coolest pitcher ever in Z. But, yeah if we didn;t have DLee we would have got last in the division and a top three pick.

Did Cobb bat leadoff? No wonder that team never won it all with him then, that dude was fast. He should have led off.

Yeah, he'll be cheap. You can DH him. Make sure you have a short LF porch. Get your 600 and retire with dignity, Sammy. As soon as you hit it, tip your cap and call it a career. Dignity went flying out the window about the same time time the cork went flying out of Sammy's bat. Come on now, we all know that was just a "batting practice" bat.......... I personally believe it was a practice bat. I also believe Sam juiced. Others can believe he didn't, along with believing Oswald acted alone, O.J. is innocent, and other such nonsense (IMO). Sometimes common sense overides an abscence of proof, when there is enough circumstantial evidence. If I say I believe Sosa is innocent, then I have to say the same of players like Bonds, Boone, McGwire, etc., and I can't honestly do that. And I loved (and still do) Sammy Sosa. I have just reconciled with his probable cheating. why let it bother you, with each passing week it seems someone else was doing. Sammy wasn't the only one. I would like to see him have one more good year.

Dude, he's hitting .318! Oh, wait, no...that's his OBP that and huston street absoultely has to win this award. nobody realizes how good joe blanton has been this year. 195 ip, 3.55 era, 1.22 whip those who want to point out that i didnt post his k/bb ratio can feel free to do so. at least it's better than saarloos. Blanton is a better choice as well, did sizemore play too much last year to qualify? I still would go with Street though.

coughsteroidscough It probably also has something to do with the level of conditioning and medical attention that the players get now. The diagnosis and treatment of injuries has really improved over the last 50 or so years. That -- plus, it's a small sample size. Most of the guys in that earlier era played in incredible favorable conditions for offense. In addition, many of them weren't exactly lousy past 30 -- they just didn't get over 100 XBH at that age. Ruth was great past 30, Foxx won a Triple Crown at 30, Hornsby was amazing past 30, Musial was great in the '50s, Gehrig was great in his 30s until ALS cut him down. Greenberg also lost prime years to WWII. And the other guy in that group, Chuck Klein, played in the best hitters park in the league during the best offensive years the MLB has ever seen. (In 1930 the ENTIRE NL hit .303.) He was sort of the Helton of his time, except without the walks. I'm not saying steroids have nothing to do with the numbers of the past decade, just that most of those guys from the past weren't exactly washed up past their 20s. right plus that was back when baseball was so expanded that everyone was rushed up. no wait that is how it is now. Back then there were what 10 teams a league? A lot less jobs open then, so more guys would be in the minors longer trying to get jobs. exactly! there aren't many more people in this country plus millions of people in other countries trying to get into the majors now like there were then! People don't want to play baseball now like they did then because the money is crap! The only reason I think steroids is because the guys mentioned were Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, and Albert Belle being guys who had more than 100 xbh I think it is fair to assume that most would agree on three of these guys being jucieheads. I don;t know about Joey, but with his temper it would make sense.

Dude, he's hitting .318! Oh, wait, no...that's his OBP that and huston street absoultely has to win this award.

And Sam Fuld gave the Cubs permission to re-draft him in 2004 (after previously drafting him in 2003).nice but it is all academic now anyways as Gordon signed today.

you really have to love it that Baker gets a guy who was basically out of baseball 551 abs for us this year.

well maddux had the lead and our lineup scored three he couldn't hold it. at least they gave him a chance to win 15.

Don't forget Alex Gordon HAS NOT signed with the Royals, and he has just register for classes at Nebraska. With the season the Royals are having, it wouldn't SURPRISE me if Gordon returns to school, instead of signing with the Royals. so they can draft him again next year with the number 1 overall pick? That is all they have to tell him to get him to sign now. Hey buddy if you wanna waste a year to be right back in the same situation go right ahead. A player has to give permission to a team to be re-drafted. Are you sure? I thought that was only with draft and follows. But, if not I guess he does have some leverage.

The Cubs won in 98. I think Sosa should have been dealt in 2000. The broken down players is what the Cubs do. They look for bargins to go with their superstar marquee players. I want a team of good players not one superstar to bring in the sheep. If the Cubs actually decided to go after good players to go with with Lee then yeah...I agree with you but history has shown they do not. Do you remember the trade proposals the Yankees gave us for Sammy? A bunch of crap for the #1 slugger in the game. Wonder why we didn't take that. :roll: didn't they offer Soriano?

WHAT HAPPENED TO ZAMBRANO?!!!!!?!!!!! He'll be penciled into right when we get there. :D whew its about time we worked him into the lineup, better not put Murton in left with him pitching though as everygame it seems murton makes a mistake and Z glares at him inbetween hitters.

WHAT HAPPENED TO ZAMBRANO?!!!!!?!!!!!

Don't forget Alex Gordon HAS NOT signed with the Royals, and he has just register for classes at Nebraska. With the season the Royals are having, it wouldn't SURPRISE me if Gordon returns to school, instead of signing with the Royals. so they can draft him again next year with the number 1 overall pick? That is all they have to tell him to get him to sign now. Hey buddy if you wanna waste a year to be right back in the same situation go right ahead.

What a sad season. The Cubs have too much payroll at their disposal and too deep a minor league system to be picking in the top 1/2 of the draft. Yeah but we get another good prospect who will eventually get to sit behind a proven player like Todd Hollandsworth. What's not to love?

the great thing about all of this is the cubs know about this forum, their announcer has mentioned it on air many times. Thus they know all these stats we can spew out. The fact remains either they think that Dusty put together a good lineup this year, or they are too afraid to say anything about it to him. I really don't know which one to root for.

coughsteroidscough It probably also has something to do with the level of conditioning and medical attention that the players get now. The diagnosis and treatment of injuries has really improved over the last 50 or so years. that I could agree with.

coughsteroidscough It probably also has something to do with the level of conditioning and medical attention that the players get now. The diagnosis and treatment of injuries has really improved over the last 50 or so years. That -- plus, it's a small sample size. Most of the guys in that earlier era played in incredible favorable conditions for offense. In addition, many of them weren't exactly lousy past 30 -- they just didn't get over 100 XBH at that age. Ruth was great past 30, Foxx won a Triple Crown at 30, Hornsby was amazing past 30, Musial was great in the '50s, Gehrig was great in his 30s until ALS cut him down. Greenberg also lost prime years to WWII. And the other guy in that group, Chuck Klein, played in the best hitters park in the league during the best offensive years the MLB has ever seen. (In 1930 the ENTIRE NL hit .303.) He was sort of the Helton of his time, except without the walks. I'm not saying steroids have nothing to do with the numbers of the past decade, just that most of those guys from the past weren't exactly washed up past their 20s. right plus that was back when baseball was so expanded that everyone was rushed up. no wait that is how it is now. Back then there were what 10 teams a league? A lot less jobs open then, so more guys would be in the minors longer trying to get jobs.

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brandon wood. Ah I think that Albert Belle did the year he had 50 homers and 50 doubles. actually i am sure he did once I use my calculator. :oops:

This is the guy that was the only reason to watch cubs baseball for about 5 years. I am not a big fan of his, but he deserves better than this from the fan base that put him up on a pedestal.