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But nobody is beating the Heat, so why weren't the stakes low in the month leading up to the playoffs? If rose plays all year and is playoff ready, they absolutely could beat the heat. Him just showing up and trying to play now, no freaking way. He means that if no one is beating the Heat without a fully-prepared Rose (and I agree with that thought), then why not play the last month or even couple weeks of the regular season and test the waters? What is there to lose? Nothing, but he didn't. That's what makes me think he thinks he's still hurt.
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But nobody is beating the Heat, so why weren't the stakes low in the month leading up to the playoffs? If rose plays all year and is playoff ready, they absolutely could beat the heat. Him just showing up and trying to play now, no freaking way.
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Next year I agree with you, this year no way. His games would be rehab. Let him do those when the stakes are low at the beginning of next year.
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I agree with that; I'm frustrated with the Rose camp this season, but that's just pure meatballery. That said, generally question why people would be annoyed with him is just willfully putting blinders on. He has been out a year. Not everyone is Adrian Peterson. There is absolutely reason to question why people are annoyed at rose.
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Holy Hell, are you not reading what I'm posting? Yes, tell me if rose is done as an elite player. What moves can they make to save this team? Nothing. But it's not just a question of whether he's only elite or not. So there really isn't much of a difference if he waits until next season. There is no big move this offseason that could save this team if rose isn't the same.
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If he's not playing next year, have at it. It's only been a year now. Jesus Christ.
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Holy Hell, are you not reading what I'm posting? Yes, tell me if rose is done as an elite player. What moves can they make to save this team?
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Yes, god they might lose a few of those oh so important early season games now. You're totally right.
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The main thing he had "issues" with were an in-game collision and the line-drive. That was then exacerbated by managerial misuse. Those issues spiral off into additional injuries based on attempts to adjust because of the major injuries. Which is all redundant in this case since we're talking about a pitcher's precise mechanics vs. a basketball player. True, I still argue though people are getting ridiculous over this. They're not beating the heat anyways. How are people getting ridiculous? Nobody here is talking like he was going to come back and they'd march to the Finals. Most were expecting he'd take a while to work up even be able to manage full game-load, much less leading the team to anything. There are people saying [expletive] rose all over this thread. That's ridiculous.
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The main thing he had "issues" with were an in-game collision and the line-drive. That was then exacerbated by managerial misuse. Those issues spiral off into additional injuries based on attempts to adjust because of the major injuries. Which is all redundant in this case since we're talking about a pitcher's precise mechanics vs. a basketball player. True, I still argue though people are getting ridiculous over this. They're not beating the heat anyways. I [expletive] hate the 'not beating the Heat anyway' thing. First of all, no one's beating them next year either, so I guess he should just sit that out too. Second of all, even though he's probably superhuman and incapable of injury, the fact is the Heat are one LeBron injury away from this thing being wide open. It's ridiculous to just surrender. A full year yes, but they haven't been at full health all year and are all banged up anyways. Thus, I'd punt this year and go get ready for next year.
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So then no, you didn't play at a world class level. So you don't know how this will effect a guy playing the toughest position in the world against the greatest atheletes.
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Because his brother is the archetypal dbag family hanger-on that's influencing his quiet, dim brother for some stupid reason. Listen, I'm all for hating Reggie Rose, but what does he gain from this? They seem to think they'd be forcing the Bulls' hand to build a different team. Michael Jordan couldn't do that with Jerry. What makes the Rose's think they could?
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The main thing he had "issues" with were an in-game collision and the line-drive. That was then exacerbated by managerial misuse. Those issues spiral off into additional injuries based on attempts to adjust because of the major injuries. Which is all redundant in this case since we're talking about a pitcher's precise mechanics vs. a basketball player. True, I still argue though people are getting ridiculous over this. They're not beating the heat anyways.
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Wait, you think his ACL is potentially still "hurt?" I think that the ACL is ok, but I think he might still not be healthy enough to play. I don't know, I've never had that injury. I think there is a chance he could be a different player when he gets back. As a soccer player who's dealt with #nee injuries several times, I can say that coming back from an ACL/MCL injury is not that big of a deal, provided none of the other ligs around the knee were ruptured and you rehab it properly, and you're young. Rose had a simple tear, has access to the absolute best doctors and rehab facilities and is very young. There's very little reason to think he'd not be able to come back and be pretty much the same player. Did you play at a world class level? Where even the slightest drop could be major? Didn't think so.
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Because his brother is the archetypal dbag family hanger-on that's influencing his quiet, dim brother for some stupid reason. Listen, I'm all for hating Reggie Rose, but what does he gain from this?
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I have no reason not to take him at his word. This just seems to me to be getting awfully close to the Mark Prior towel jokes. Nothings wrong Mark, the team doctors checked your shoulder. Don't remember Prior ever not playing when he was cleared to. They said many times the doctors saw nothing structurally wrong with his arm, that's all doctors have said about rose and his knee, no? Yeah, man, those damn doctors not predicting he'd take a line drive off of his [expletive] elbow. Even though the shoulder is what he has had issues with.
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I have no reason not to take him at his word. This just seems to me to be getting awfully close to the Mark Prior towel jokes. Nothings wrong Mark, the team doctors checked your shoulder. Don't remember Prior ever not playing when he was cleared to. Yeah, WTF comparison The general perception was Prior wasn't trying to comeback and wasn't really hurt. But Wood, he was always fighting to get back.
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Wait, you think his ACL is potentially still "hurt?" I think that the ACL is ok, but I think he might still not be healthy enough to play. I don't know, I've never had that injury. I think there is a chance he could be a different player when he gets back.
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Nuts, I get what you are saying, but what does he have to gain by sitting? He's taking a beating in public opinion, his general perception is taking a huge hit. Why sit, unless you are hurt?
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I have no reason not to take him at his word. This just seems to me to be getting awfully close to the Mark Prior towel jokes. Nothings wrong Mark, the team doctors checked your shoulder. Don't remember Prior ever not playing when he was cleared to. They said many times the doctors saw nothing structurally wrong with his arm, that's all doctors have said about rose and his knee, no? I could be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure no matter what happened, Prior pitched when the Cubs and doctors agreed he was ready to. I know it's apples and oranges injury-wise, but there's no way in holy hell he's less healthy than Joakim Noah right now, and Noah's not only playing, he's playing pretty damn well. Noah is banged up, Rose was badly injured. Big time difference, IMO.
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I have no reason not to take him at his word. This just seems to me to be getting awfully close to the Mark Prior towel jokes. Nothings wrong Mark, the team doctors checked your shoulder. Don't remember Prior ever not playing when he was cleared to. They said many times the doctors saw nothing structurally wrong with his arm, that's all doctors have said about rose and his knee, no? There's an immense difference between someone's shoulder and knee. Rose had a simple ACL tear. A simple ACL tear for a basketball player. One who relies very heavily on explosiveness and jumping ability. That's rich.
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I have no reason not to take him at his word. This just seems to me to be getting awfully close to the Mark Prior towel jokes. Nothings wrong Mark, the team doctors checked your shoulder. Don't remember Prior ever not playing when he was cleared to. They said many times the doctors saw nothing structurally wrong with his arm, that's all doctors have said about rose and his knee, no?
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I have no reason not to take him at his word. This just seems to me to be getting awfully close to the Mark Prior towel jokes. Nothings wrong Mark, the team doctors checked your shoulder. What word? He hasn't said he's still hurt; just the vague and nebulous "I'll be back when I'm ready." Couple that with how he looks in practice and what the Roses have said about the Bulls I'm surprised anyone actually thinks he's still hurt. He's said when he is 100 percent he's coming back. If he isn't back I have to think he still is hurt. I don't get what it benefits Bulls fans to question his heart.
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I have no reason not to take him at his word. This just seems to me to be getting awfully close to the Mark Prior towel jokes. Nothings wrong Mark, the team doctors checked your shoulder.
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Bulls fans cussing out Derrick Rose because he's hurt totally makes sense.
