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Brian Scalabrine and Kurt Thomas.
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I'm pretty sure the Bulls will run with a Gibson/Boozer front line for the next while. The biggest loss they'll face is defensive.
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Wow this is just unreal, and Clayton is a guy I pretty much take to the bank. If he says there's a chance, there probably is. It would probably seal Favre not playing as well. I could see him wanting to give the home crowd one last hurrah, but I doubt he'll push his shoulder for what would virtually be a road game. I actually don't put a lot of stock into Clayton's comments about 50-50. He's just making that part up, and he does that sort of thing a lot. His schtick has always been to provide as many "gee whiz" headlines as possible instead of actually going in depth on any stories. That said, why is Indy more of a possibility than Detroit this time? The only reason I can think of as to why Indy instead of Detroit is that Detroit is on the road this week while Indy plays at home. So, the stadium is already set for football this week, while other events may have been scheduled at Ford Field this week.
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Redick hasn't done well so far this year, but I still think he'd have been perfect in the Bulls system this year.
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John Clayton just said there's a 50-50 chance the game Monday is played at Lucas Oil stadium.
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While I think the Bulls' most glaring need is a 2-guard who can shoot 3's reliably while still providing a hint of defensive ability, the only way they make a move is if they trade Brewer, or somebody really wants Deng (who, imo, is far more valuable playing for the Bulls than the return he'd likely get from another team). If only Orlando hadn't matched on Redick.
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The kenpom Player of the Year ratings
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I believe a division winner can be ranked no lower than fourth. So if the top two teams are from the same division, they'll be No. 1 and No. 2 rather than No. 1 and No. 4. Home court also goes to the team with more wins. So in 2007, No. 4 Miami (44 wins) played No. 5 Chicago (49) and No. 4 Utah (51) played No. 5 Houston (52) in the first round and both Chicago and Houston had home court. This is correct.
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No, the "debate" started when someone dared claim the Bulls' best case scenario for the year was finishing 3rd ahead of Orlando in the standings, and then you felt the need to assert Orlando's dominance by citing a single game, and then proceeded to figuratively stick your fingers in your ears and hum to yourself for 5 hours. I don't understand this. Every argument I've made in this thread has been valid, even if you don't agree with it. Do you expect me to admit the Bulls are the better team without any real proof of it? You not only misrepresented the argument, but you continue to not even acknowledge the actual argument. You made up an argument and your side of the debate consists of one result from one game. Nobody is arguing that the Bulls are clearly better than the Magic. Just that they have been comparable to this point and that the Bulls have a puncher's chance of ending the season with a better record.
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No, the "debate" started when someone dared claim the Bulls' best case scenario for the year was finishing 3rd ahead of Orlando in the standings, and then you felt the need to assert Orlando's dominance by citing a single game, and then proceeded to figuratively stick your fingers in your ears and hum to yourself for 5 hours.
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Hopefully they will combine to score 20 points this week. Why, you want the Bears to win 9-6 or something?
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This is the extent of your "argument": 1. The Magic were better in the past. 2. The Magic dominated the Bulls in one game. 3. I refuse to listen to anything that suggests anything other than what I think. All I'm saying is as of right now, in the NBA, there appears to be a clear top two tiers: Tier 1: Boston, Miami, San Antonio Tier 2: Dallas, LA Lakers, Utah, Orlando, Chicago Of those teams, Chicago has played, by far, the toughest schedule in the first 25 games. With the division down this year, their best case scenario is to finish 3rd in the East, ahead of Orlando. This is actually possible. I'm assuming your tiers are based on Sagarin, or something similar? I'd bump LA to tier 1, and put OKC and ATL in tier 2. Combination of Sagarin, BP, and Hollinger. LA should be tier 1, but they've played like a tier 2 team so far. Which, with their crappy division, still will allow them to coast to the playoffs where they'll have to actually try. So, maybe they're a tier 1 team playing like a tier 2 team because they can. OKC and Atlanta struggled early and have caught fire lately. I'd probably have them and Denver together in a small third tier. After that though, the dropoff is stark.
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1. Changing Vinny Del Negro to Tom Thibodeau. I'm not sure the effect can be stated enough. This improved a decent defense to a near-top-of-the-league defense, and actually created an offense that consists of more than "GO DERRICK! DO SOMETHING!". Also, the team is now capable of using timeouts effectively. And Deng now shoots 3's instead of low-percentage 2's. 2. Upgrading from Hakim Warrick to Carlos Boozer. Technically, Taj was the starter last year, so it's upgrading Gibson to Boozer and Warrick to Gibson, but the net benefit is Boozer instead of Warrick. Do I even need to describe how big of an upgrade that is? 3. Signing Korver and Brewer instead of Hinrich and Flip Murray. Brewer is about as good a defender as Hinrich, and Korver gives the team 3-point range that was sorely missing the past two years, requiring opposing defenses to actually defend perimeter shots instead of sitting back to defend Rose. So, the team is defending better, a real offense exists, and the opposing defense has to work harder to defend people other than Rose. Coupled with the continued improvement of Rose, Noah and Gibson, and the team is a LOT better than last year. And they weren't terrible last year.
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This is the extent of your "argument": 1. The Magic were better in the past. 2. The Magic dominated the Bulls in one game. 3. I refuse to listen to anything that suggests anything other than what I think. All I'm saying is as of right now, in the NBA, there appears to be a clear top two tiers: Tier 1: Boston, Miami, San Antonio Tier 2: Dallas, LA Lakers, Utah, Orlando, Chicago Of those teams, Chicago has played, by far, the toughest schedule in the first 25 games. With the division down this year, their best case scenario is to finish 3rd in the East, ahead of Orlando. This is actually possible.
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It was a clear moral victory, which brought the season total to 5 in the early going. It also made me far angrier than I would've been had they just gotten blown out without Rose.
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Crazy idea here, but maybe the Bears should game plan around Adrian Peterson, and try to make whoever is the QB beat them.
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And this year has pretty clearly proven that it runs just as well with CJ Watson starting Well, they did almost beat the Nuggets... ...but if I had to choose between, say, a 50% Rose for 10 games, or have him sit 2 out and be 90-100% for the rest, I'd rather he just sit a couple out.
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Sure, part of being a better team involves head-to-head results, which is why it's used in tiebreakers. However, a 3-game sample size over an 82 game season (and especially a one-game sample size over 25 games) is hardly a reliable data point in measuring two teams' overall quality. You've pretty clearly demonstrated you only saw the Bulls play in the one game against the Magic, which was the perfect storm of bad for them. Boozer's first game back, the first game after the circus trip, and by far the Bulls worst played game of the year. It's hardly a reliable barometer. It's also hardly fair to use results from past years to determine the relative worth of teams this year, as the Bulls were 41-41 the past two years running. Of course the Magic were better the past two years. That's completely irrelevant right now.
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As much as it pains me to say, Boozer isn't the Bulls 2nd best player. Considering how much Noah's struggled since Boozer came back, he might be. Or there's something wrong with Noah, which also wouldn't surprise me much.
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You must not have been paying attention to the rest of the season if you think Bulls fans are just getting excited as a result of a 6-game winning streak. The west coast road trip without Boozer, playing reasonably well on the road in all but one game, the only real trouble the Bulls were having early on was in winning handily, and now they've done that the last 2 games. I don't think you have any clue just how difficult the first 21 games of the Bulls schedule were.
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If you don't think the Bulls and Magic are in a similar position this year in terms of conference finish in the standings, then you're being a homer. 9 out of 10 people who aren't fans of either would view both as a step behind Boston and Miami, currently. Just because the Magic are a bad matchup right now for the Bulls specifically, doesn't mean a whole lot in terms of the teams' outlook for the season and playoffs. I never said the Bulls wouldn't finish near the Magic in the standings. They'll probably indeed finish 4th. What I basically said is that ranking them ahead of Orlando right now is BS because they've done nothing to prove they are better. And again, it's being assumed that the Magic being ravaged by the flu has somehow weakened the team for good. Without the flu, Orlando is at least 18-6, most likely 19-5 and nobody is calling Chicago the better team. You are also not taking into account the Bulls playing both the toughest schedule in the NBA to this point, and also being without their second best player for 15 games. With Boozer and Orlando's schedule, Chicago is at least 18-6, most likely 19-5 and nobody is calling Orlando the better team.
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For the Bulls, it may be as simple as not using Bogans, who is useless, and starting either Korver or Brewer. Korver can shoot, it's the defending that is the question for him.
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If you don't think the Bulls and Magic are in a similar position this year in terms of conference finish in the standings, then you're being a homer. 9 out of 10 people who aren't fans of either would view both as a step behind Boston and Miami, currently. Just because the Magic are a bad matchup right now for the Bulls specifically, doesn't mean a whole lot in terms of the teams' outlook for the season and playoffs.
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Yeah, here is the remaining road schedule against winning teams: Utah New Orleans Miami Orlando x2 Atlanta x2 New York x2
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Projected final standings according to BP's POW ratings (through 12/12): East 1. Boston 66-16 2. Miami 58-24 3. Chicago 57-25 4. Orlando 51-31 5. Atlanta 48-34 6. Indiana 43-39 7. New York 40-42 8. Milwaukee 35-47 --------------------------- 9. Philly 34-48 10. Toronto 33-49 11. Charlotte 30-52 12. New Jersey 24-58 13. Detroit 22-60 14. Cleveland 20-62 15. Washington 19-63 West 1. San Antonio 62-20 2. Dallas 62-20 3. Utah 55-27 4*. LA Lakers 48-34 5. New Orleans 52-30 6. Denver 51-31 7. OKC 50-32 8. Portland 44-38 --------------------------------- 9. Phoenix 40-42 10. Houston 38-44 11. Memphis 37-45 12. Golden State 29-53 13. Minnesota 22-60 14. LA Clippers 20-62 15. Sacramento 18-64
