I think most people here see the Cavs as the post-1998 Bulls, except without the titles to fall back on as a reason for the ineptitude. The roster is old and bloated, and will need a fantastic set of drafts and player turnover to even get competitive again. Heck, it took the Bulls 3 rebuilds to get it "right" (First, Brand/Artest; second, Hinrich/Gordon/Chandler; third, Rose/Noah).