In an effort to get this thread back on track... Does anyone else think giving up Pie, Dope and two pitchers who could be Williams and Guzman or Marshall is overpaying? Dunn is a great power hitter who hits from the left side and he gets on base a lot, but he isn't Bobby Abreu at age 25. Abreu was/is the complete package that Pie could be. Dunn's OPS is elite, but the rest of his game is average or slightly above average. Is OPS such an all-determining statistic? Pie's ceiling is higher than Dunn's though Dunn is realizing his potential at the moment while Pie is still somewhat of a risk. So Pie for Dunn straight up might be fair if both GMs feel like rolling the dice. Or Dunn for a solid starter like Williams and a top pitching prospect like Hill/Guzman/Marshall would be fair, but not both of those offers combined plus Dopirak. What do the rest of you think? we are set at 1st for years with Lee so giving up Dopirak wouldn't be that bad. With Pie, like you said, is a very big risk. The comparisons to CPatt are pretty scary as well. I would trade Pie in a deal to net Dunn. We are pretty good on pitching depth. Guzman is injury prone, but it seems like he still has some pretty good value. Williams could either be the 5th starter on the big league team this year, the long man, or in AAA. Losing him wouldn't be that big of a deal. I really don't think that deal would be considered overpaying.