You do realize that in order for the Packers to win this division (keep in mind that both teams have played 7 games) not only do the Bears have to lose 5 games but the Packers have to win every single one of theirs. Yea. Thats how down you guys are. Ok, where did I say that the Packers are going to win the division? It's pretty obvious that the Bears are going to win the division. I'm just glad that finally someone said something about all of this hype that the Bears are getting. Sure they're 7-0, but really, the only teams you guys have played that are worthy of being called "decent" are the Seahawks and Vikings. And both of those teams look real mediocre this year, as well as every other team in the NFC not named the Bears or Giants. Congrats on the great year you're having, but some of you are just overreacting on the comment Driver made. He said that the Bears are a good team, but given the game on Arizona (where the whole Bears offense looked awful) that they aren't as good as their record indicates. There's no way of proving this because the Bears don't control the schedule, but he does have a valid point. Still a 7-0 record against any 7 teams in the NFL is pretty good and has to be respected. We'll see how good the Bears do against the Giants and Pats on the road. Their schedule gets progressively tougher after the Dolphins game. I don't think we're that far "down" either. In a rebuilding year, we're only 1 game out of a playoff position going into Week 9. Yeah we've beaten three pretty bad teams, but our four losses are against teams that are all above .500. Unlike the Bears, our schedule gets easier the second half of the season (besides the Pats and Seahawks). Now I don't want to turn this into a pointless Bears-Packers thread, so I'll close this off by saying the Bears will beat the Dolphins by probably 3 TD's. Besides the Giants-49ers game, this is the easiest lock of the week. I'm holding out hope that our Week 17 battle will actually be a game that can be important for both teams. I will only say this: it's interesting how the Bears are a joke because of the teams they have played, yet the Packers are suddenly looking great while beating those identical opponents. As for Packers/Bears in late December----they might actually have a shot to win that game. Of course, it will be against our NFL Europe assignees......but they might have a shot. I complimented the Bears saying that they are 7-0 and winning 7 in a row against any NFL team is an accomplishment. I also said how we haven't beat anyone yet either. Where have I said the Bears are a joke? I know they're a good team and they are right up there with the Giants to win the NFC. They just haven't had a real test yet, but they will in a week and a half. Just relax. I'm giving you guys your props. 7-0 is an impressive feat.