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That was a great game. I am not a fan of OSU at all, but I respected that team for the way they played. Offhand I can't think of a bigger upset in a NC game. That team never gave up. They weren't pretty, but they always found a way to win. Of course this years Fiesta Bowl may be a little different for them :lol:

I just read that as well. Very good to hear. Phillips said they "may" be interested. Looks like that is not the case. :D

Phillips just said on ESPN Radio that Damon will probably get around 4 years, at 13 per. Cubs may be interested, but he will more than likey stay in Boston. Also said he was the best lead-off hitter of this years FA. Anyone agree with that? I didn't think he was, but I may be wrong.

This had nothing to do with ND selling though. They got an automatic bid, as did OSU. There were no at-large teams this year. And you are right, ND may get their butts kicked. :x

Not sure if anyone cares about this, but Mitch Mustaine, a 5 star QB (# 2 overall) just decommited from Arkansas. Word has it that he is now interested in ND or Tennesse, and ND visited him this past weekend. However, with ND pretty full in the QB committ area, UT may be getting a damn good QB soon.

If Macias gets an extension, in the words of Colbert, the Cubs are on notice.

There were a few times pages would not load right away, but nothing too bad.

Sagarin has ND at 19 and Oregon at 34 Anderson and Hester had ND at 42 and Oregon at 55 Colley has ND at 54 and Oregon at 55 Massey has ND at 38 and Oregon at 55 ND Average: 38.25 Oregon Average: 49.75 These are 4 of the 6 computer rankings used. The other two (Billingsley and Wolf) did not have SOS, that I could find. I guess that when looking at Oregons schedule (or any schedule for that matter) you have to look at more than just their opponents win/loss column. Lets take a winning team on Oregons schedule and compare it to a losing team on NDs schedule. Oregon: Houston finished 6-5. They beat Sam Houston, Tulsa, Tulane, Miss St, So Miss, and Rice. They lost to UTEP, Memphis, C Florida, SMU, and Oregon. They played in C-USA, not a very strong conference at all. According to Sagarin they are the 9th ranked conference. Notre Dame: Tennesse finished 5-6. They beat UAB, LSU, Ole Miss, Memphis and Kentucky. They lost to Florida, Georgia, Alabama, S Carolina, ND, and Vanderbilt (4 teams in the top 20). They played in the SEC, the 5th ranked conference. Now some would say that Oregon beat a team that is "bowl eligible" by beating Houston. But is a victory over a 6-5 Houston team better than a victory over a 5-6 Tennesse team? Lets look at one more, just to be fair. Oregon: Montana (1AA) finished 8-4. They beat...well does it matter, they are IAA! But some say they are 8-4 and use that to count towards Oregons opponents records when debating how tough their schedule is. ND: Purdue finished 5-6. They had a terrible season, true but Sagarin has the Big 10 ranked as the#1 conference, and would anyone actually argue that a 5-6 Big 10 team is worse than a 8-4 AA team? It really is a tough debate over who's schedule is worse, but I really feel the NDs schedule, though weak, is stronger than Oregons.

Would deleting old threads that haven't been active since before Opening Day 2004 be effective? I very much doubt people are going to miss those much. Maybe putting in an "auto delete" feature in threads that have been inactive for, say, 18 months? I'm sure it would give you enough room, at least for now. You could have an archive for the more popular or funny threads, like the famous Nomar thread. Also just thinking out loud. Wasn't around then. Could you let me know what thread that is? It was even about a month before I joined. It started the day we traded for Nomar. Treebeard and such posted a bunch of MSN paint pictures and stuff, kind of providing illustration for the story and how he reacted when we got Nomar. Once the search features get back up I'm sure someone will link to it. I think I may have seen it before. I forgot the search was down. I will try to find it once it is up though, thanks.

Should we start a bandWGN for that? yep, put me on board for that bandWGN as well. I'm there with you guys Got room for one more? I have heard some RIDICULOUS statements by this organization, but that one is a serious contender for the top spot.

Would deleting old threads that haven't been active since before Opening Day 2004 be effective? I very much doubt people are going to miss those much. Maybe putting in an "auto delete" feature in threads that have been inactive for, say, 18 months? I'm sure it would give you enough room, at least for now. You could have an archive for the more popular or funny threads, like the famous Nomar thread. Also just thinking out loud. Wasn't around then. Could you let me know what thread that is?

So did many other coaches. Why is that important exactly? Cause it seems most coaches place their teams higher than the average? Not if the average is 2. I still can't believe Bellotti and Willingham both ranked the Ducks 4th and ND 9th. In comparison, Weis had the Irish 4th, but ranked Oregon sixth. It seems almost as if Bellotti and Willingham were trying to push Oregon into a BCS bowl somehow. Is putting Oregon 4th really outrageous? They're schedule wasn't garbage, and their only loss was against USC. You're the one that's been saying that you could make a case for all the two loss teams to make a BCS bowl, why not the same here? Oregon's schedule was garbage. I really feel that since you feel so strongly that ND's schedule was garbage, you would probably feel the same about Oregons. I don't want to start another ND schedule debate, but I am just using it as a measure for what you view as a bad schedule. What about Oregons is impressive. Cal? Fresno State? Besides those two I see no argument for any team on it. Also they lost to USC by 32 at home. What I was going to post originally was that the ACC could lose their automatic berth per the BCS. It is in the media guide, an adobe file 2002 - 14 - Florida State 2003 - 7 - Florida State 2004 - 8 - Virginia Tech 2005 - 22 - Florida State 12.75 average. Edit: The lines for the rest of the Bowl games are up. Biggest suprise to me, Oregon favored by a field goal against Oklahoma.

Vince Young to the NFL? It goes on to say he will be a definate first round choice, and after the bowl game he will look at all of his options. Its an insider article but here is the link

The USA today only picks 62 coaches. I have no clue what the criteria is. Urban Meyer didn't have a vote, nor did Snyder. Not sure why some get left out. I likes how Rutgers got one top 25 vote, by the Rutgers coach

Here is the final coaches poll.

NUN, have you ever considered the possibility that most of these athletes come from fairly well-to-do families? Also, what of parents who might buy their children cars as a congratulations gift or as a joke thanks for not making them pay for their college? I have also heard of families taking out loans based on the guaranteed future wealth of their child. I believe that is how Lebron got his hummer. Also worth noting that I read a ESPN article on Leinart saying he pretty much lived in a dump with 3 roommates, and drove some old POS car. I was about a year ago though, so it may have changed. I like Leinart (that hurt to say). Leinart drove a POS car!?!? Wow, his folks live in a $5 million house in the OC. My parents live in an amazing house, and I drive a 91 buick. Parents being rich does not mean their kids are rich. However like I said, it was what I read in ESPN magazine. Don't know if it is true or not, just passing along something I read.

NUN, have you ever considered the possibility that most of these athletes come from fairly well-to-do families? Also, what of parents who might buy their children cars as a congratulations gift or as a joke thanks for not making them pay for their college? I have also heard of families taking out loans based on the guaranteed future wealth of their child. I believe that is how Lebron got his hummer. Also worth noting that I read a ESPN article on Leinart saying he pretty much lived in a dump with 3 roommates, and drove some old POS car. I was about a year ago though, so it may have changed. I like Leinart (that hurt to say).

I must say in my short time posting hear, I have never seen a public outcry such as this. I was fascinated; I couldn't look, but couldn't turn away either.

Just to play devils advocate, if Zito does get traded to the Cubs, does M4D get a pardon, or does his crafty switching of sources midthread trump anything that happens from here on out.

Best post ever.

Georgia moved to -9, and PSU went to 8. I am sure they will move quite a bit in the next month. The over/under for the Rose Bowl is 71!

Opening lines for the BCS bowls OSU -5.5 PSU -9 Georgia -7 USC -6

No problem. Been a bad day, sorry if I'm a bit touchy. They do get rewards from the Bowl for going. They talked about it on ESPN today. Xboxs, Ipods, etc. Didn't NCAA consider an idea that would pay players more than tuition and their allowances? I think the argument was that a free education is reward enough. On another note, anyone know when the Heisman candidates will be announced?

Way to take a little joke and blow it way out of proportion. OSU has had a lot said recently about their violations. As did Tressel at his previous job, Youngstown I think. It was a joke based on that. Nothing to do with my putting ND on a higher moral ground. But now that you mention it I would put most teams above OSU or FSU, not just ND. Perhaps I don't know all the high end college athletes that you do, so I am not as privileged to the inside info. I just go off of what gets reported in the news and by the NCAA, hence my making a JOKE about Tressel. Sorry it offended you.

Weis, one s. Also perhaps you can tell me what history Weis has of violating rules.