Cedeno has shown fine range. It's the routine plays he's struggled with more than anything, and that too can be rectified with regular playing time. Cedeno has shown more pop in his bat. I can't really define the managing style of Tracy in LA, but we know that Dusty preached aggressiveness, which in my opinion, stunted Cedeno's development at the plate. This may be the case with Izturis as well, but the only year he had more than 40 walks was when he was leading off for the Dodgers in 2004. I agree with you about Cedeno. Dusty/Clines really had him struggling. some of that might have been Ronny's work ethic and some of that might have been the coaching philosophy/coaching work ethic. Cedeno is a much better player than he was last season. I think he'd do well under Lou's staff, which seems to stress repetition and hard work. That's all Ronny needs to become consistent. Looking at Izturis's trends, he's improving fairly steadily in terms of plate discipline. http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs.aspx?playerid=656&position=3BSS&page=3&type=full http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs.aspx?playerid=656&position=3BSS&page=5&type=full That first graph showing BB% looks like the last three years have been a plateau. He may be cutting strikeouts, but that's pretty irrelevant.