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Ha, yeah lastnight Troy Murray was making fun of Quenneville for the $10K he'll have to cough up.

Definitely. I don't want DeRo to go anywhere, but if the deal makes sense then you HAVE to pull the trigger. Please happen quick so I can shift my focus back to the Woot Off. But I think the point is that, at least based on what we heard from the media, the deal doesn't HAVE to involved getting rid of DeRosa.

marquis has negative value and i wouldn't classify derosa as a "very good" player. not unless he duplicates his 2008...which won't happen all things considered, dero in 2008 was fantastic, in 2007 and 2006 he was merely very good...350 wOBA at second base and paying about $1M per win over replacement, thats freakin great i don't think an .800 ops guy can ever be considered "very good" unless he's a gold glove shortstop or catcher and/or steals bases like jacoby ellsbury or hes merely an adequate middle infielder or catcher

Giles isn't going anywhere. He vetoed a few trades last season, including one to the Cubs, as I recall. he also said depending on the near term future of the team he'd possibly accept a trade next summer...well the near term future of the team doesn't look good. I'm not saying we'll get him, but its probably not 100% that we can't

marquis has negative value and i wouldn't classify derosa as a "very good" player. not unless he duplicates his 2008...which won't happen all things considered, dero in 2008 was fantastic, in 2007 and 2006 he was merely very good...350 wOBA at second base and paying about $1M per win over replacement, thats freakin great

if we have to trade dero for money as part of this package im going to be angry. ceda + dero>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gregg

not that the rox would do that in a million years, but we should be trying for a gregg tradeback regardless

Two Rich Aurilia threads on the first page makes my eyes bleed.

I sit in 207 quite a bit (2-3 times a year). Terrific seats...they are in the United Club, which is like this super fancy luxury area. If you get too cold (thursday's low is 17), you can go inside a heated area and sit in a comfy chair and watch the game out the window, there are large bars there and enough bathrooms that the only time theres a huge line is during halftime. Awesome, I'm really looking forward to it. I very rarely get to go to Bears games. I'm in row 6, do you think that will be covered? And I picked up that pair of tickets for $200 on craigslist. $200 for the PAIR, not per ticket. They are $245 each face (and right next to the $300 face section). I suggest if anyone in the Chicago area is like me and rarely gets to go to Bears games and doesn't mind a little cold, hit up craigslist. There are hundreds and hundreds of tickets out there below face.

Anyone sat in 205 or a section near that? Just picked up tickets to the Thursday game and have never sat around there.

BTW, tonight, me and the alumni get a tour of the UC, locker rooms, etc. and get to sit down and talk with Quenneville. I'll post highlights...

I'm a Hawks alumni (but not a former player) and got this nice email yesterday and thought I'd share with everyone.... In the middle of a grueling six game road trip where a very young > > hockey > > team is away from home, the third game of the trip ends late on a > > cold > > Canadian Saturday night. This is the only break on the trip and the > > three > > days between games allow them the only break to get back home in > > their own > > beds for a couple of days before going back on the road. A scheduled > > commercial flight waits for them at Toronto 's International Airport > > for the > > short flight home; they could be home by midnight. This plane > > departs on > > schedule, but without a single member of the hockey team. > > > > Back in the locker room a vote is taken after the game was complete, > > and a > > unanimous decision is made by this young team to skip this flight and > > stay > > one more day. They make arrangements to check back in the hotel and > > on a > > frozen Sunday morning charter two buses that have no heat and begin a > > journey two hours straight north into a sparsely inhabited Canada , > > but where > > hockey is its passion. They arrive at their destination to the > > surprise of > > the teams general manager who is there attending his fathers wake. > > > > After a few emotional hours, this team boards the buses and head back > > for a > > two-hour trip back to Toronto . On the way they ask the drivers to > > stop in a > > tiny Canadian town because they are hungry. To the shock of the > > patrons and > > workers at this small hockey town McDonald's, a professional team > > walks out > > of two rickety buses and into the restaurant, which just happens to > > have > > pictures of two members of this team on its wall. The patrons know > > every > > single one of these players by sight being fanatic fans of hockey in > > these > > parts. One can only imagine their amazement of the locals seeing and > > entire > > professional hockey team sit down and have a meal in their tiny > > little town > > in the middle of a hockey season. After a while they board the buses > > and > > catch their same flight 24 hours later, giving one day to their general > > manager. > > > > Have I made this up, is this an excerpt from some fictional book? No > > this a > > true story of the Blackhawks last Saturday night and they decided to > > attend > > Dale Tallon's fathers funeral. Its amazing that such a good story > > can be > > found nowhere on the internet, and not even mentioned in the Chicago > > papers. > > Had one of the Blackhawks got into a fight and punched some drunken > > loser in > > a Toronto bar it would be plastered all over papers and the > > television. > > > > This being said, its hard to imagine any professional football, > > basketball > > or baseball team doing this, but the members of the Blackhawks claim > > any > > "hockey" team would have done this. This is one reason I continue to > > be a > > big hockey fan, and another reason I am excited about this Chicago > > team. > > I thought I would share as this story appears to have > > gone > > unnoticed. > > > > GO BLACKHAWKS!!!!

Getting Heilman would make it easier to trade Marshall. Hopefully if Garland accepts arbi this will be revisited. Also, the glut of closers might lower the price enough for the mets to fix their pen exclusively through FA and leave them with Heilman to be traded for a starter (because for some [expletive] reason they refuse to give him a shot there). Id be very much in favor of getting Heilman, who would have a lot of value with 2 cheap years of a set-up man/swing man/average starter to fill in for an injury. Not to mention getting rid of Marquis.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a 280/350/330 line put him somewhere pretty close to replacement level? For a SS? That seems high. That's better than replacement level. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/burriem01.php Duh, I don't know why I didn't go to BP's stats page. So, that line would be about a half a win over replacement for a SS. Not completely worthless, but not far from completely worthless.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a 280/350/330 line put him somewhere pretty close to replacement level?

1)"Major league ready pitching" means someone who pitches as well as Marquis does right now, for the league minimum, with 4-5 years of team control and some projectability. 2) So if we picked up 9.3M of Marquis contract next year, signed him to a 4 year extention for about 10M total and created some magic potion that made him 8 years younger, then yeah, the Padres might consider him.

Fox and Hoff platoon at first?

Jeez, this is just terrible

Well, to be fair, that would have been a very very even trade...2 years ago.

Delmon + Petco= Lots o' triples (for the visiting team)

I just can't see that happening. Someone will offer him a deal. I would have to think that the Cubs would much much much rather settle with him than go to arbi. You can't have incentives in an arbi deal, can you? I don't know of any rule stating it, but I can't recall an arbi deal that wasn't just straight $.

And as a Royals GM: DENIED! You mean they won't trade 2 of their best players for our leftover slop? You sir have no place on a sports message board.

Well I'd be remiss to not propose one of those all together plausible 5 player deals: Theriot, Hill, Wuertz, Castillo. Colvin for Greinke and DeJesus That leaves enough money to sign Furcal after trading Marquis.

Think Andy Sisco. And look at how he turned out (although things may have been different had he been able to stay in the minors for 3 more years).

how do we get both?