I'm not Fred, but I've got Z with 21, 20, 25, 12, 16, 16 Thank you Not Fred :wink: . I was just curious about A) the wind up change and B) How long a lash he has for this innning. I went to the TV booth and asked Brenly. He said he just thinks Z was not in sync in the windup and that the stretch has allowed him to quick-pitch and vary his times to the plate. Sounds logical. Thanks again Bruce. Whatever the reason, it sure saved his pitch count.