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  1. This is plain rude and unneccesary, IMO.
  2. If you have a record of making deals and coming to agreement, it's much easier to find common ground and make a deal. In theory if you split the gap, but that's not really what happened here. It'll get done, in my opinion, but I don't really think this is the big step towards that. As a vet of labor-management relations, I disagree with your statement. Its a sign, no matter how small, that the sides would prefer to find middle ground and maintain good will rather than engaging in a feud. That's the essence of bargaining. The fact that they avoided arb. is a good sign. But arbitration has a risk to it that negotiating an extension doesn't have, especially with the two figures being so far apart. If Zambrano and his agent felt that they had a good shot at having their figure selected, they likely wouldn't have settled for this deal. And realistically, they had to realize that they didn't have a great shot at $15.5 million. When it comes to negotiating for an extension, though, Zambrano isn't going to have that disadvantage. No they wouldn't, b/c by settling they build good will with Hendry that can be cashed in when the truly important topic is broached: a long term deal. This is far more important than squabbiling over a couple of mill for one season. Its the forest through the trees.
  3. If you have a record of making deals and coming to agreement, it's much easier to find common ground and make a deal. In theory if you split the gap, but that's not really what happened here. It'll get done, in my opinion, but I don't really think this is the big step towards that. As a vet of labor-management relations, I disagree with your statement. Its a sign, no matter how small, that the sides would prefer to find middle ground and maintain good will rather than engaging in a feud. That's the essence of bargaining. The fact that they avoided arb. is a good sign.
  4. I hope Lou posts that cover in the clubhouse. "Enjoy it while you can...". Might as well say "You guys suck." EDIT: CubInNy: Its my impression that Russo hates the Cubs b/c of 1998 and b/c we hired Baker, who he adores. Francessa is much harder to figure.
  5. Is it me or is Williams pretty arrogant, and not necessarily with good reason?
  6. Hendry = http://www.qpolls.com/series/terminator/images/terminator.jpg Jim looks like he dropped about 25 lbs. Good example for the rest of the guys. Your 2007 Cubs - Lean, mean, Piniella-machine.
  7. Yeah the Angels are going to trade two of their best prospects and a good young pitcher for one year of Big Z. That's a terrible article. Obviously you are not a student of recent baseball history to make such a sweepingly inaccurate statement. Examples include, but are not limited to: 1) Bagwell for Larry Anderson; 2) Smoltz for Doyle Alexander; 3) Randy Johnson to Hou (for less than one season) for Freddy Garcia, Carlos Guillen and someone else who I cannot recall at this moment; 4) Former Cubs luminary Heathcliff Slocumb for Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe. Anyone wish to add to the above? except the angels need bats, not arms and none of those included two top 25 prospects... First, I don't think anyone in baseball doesn't need a starting pitcher with Z's track record, and second - assuming that the Halos do not want him - I should think the Yanks and Mets both would.
  8. Yeah the Angels are going to trade two of their best prospects and a good young pitcher for one year of Big Z. That's a terrible article. Obviously you are not a student of recent baseball history to make such a sweepingly inaccurate statement. Examples include, but are not limited to: 1) Bagwell for Larry Anderson; 2) Smoltz for Doyle Alexander; 3) Randy Johnson to Hou (for less than one season) for Freddy Garcia, Carlos Guillen and someone else who I cannot recall at this moment; 4) Former Cubs luminary Heathcliff Slocumb for Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe. Anyone wish to add to the above? You can take Doyle Alexander off the list. He pitched a couple of years for the Tigers. Heathcliff was resigned for the next year too but was traded. However, I think a team like the Angles *might* trade those guys for a shot at big Z. He's young enough to be productive for a long time, if he can stay healthy. True and true, but part of my point is that historically teams have been willing to part with much value in exchange for middling pitchers or less-than-one-year rentals, depending on the mkt. The mkt for a pitcher like Z, IMO, would be quite good.
  9. Yeah the Angels are going to trade two of their best prospects and a good young pitcher for one year of Big Z. That's a terrible article. Obviously you are not a student of recent baseball history to make such a sweepingly inaccurate statement. Examples include, but are not limited to: 1) Bagwell for Larry Anderson; 2) Smoltz for Doyle Alexander; 3) Randy Johnson to Hou (for less than one season) for Freddy Garcia, Carlos Guillen and someone else who I cannot recall at this moment; 4) Former Cubs luminary Heathcliff Slocumb for Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe. Anyone wish to add to the above?
  10. Not to get back to the original point of this thread or anything, but "Go Lou, go!"
  11. I'm in. Have been playing for years. I like 10-12 team leagues b/c of the increased depth.
  12. Its not insulting. I don't understand this. IIRC, you are one of the guys here (a list that includes myself, BTW) who generally gets on Jim for spending his money foolishly. Z has several miles on his arm at a young age, and his mechanics ain't exactly what you would call Seaver-esque. Giving him - or any present day pitcher - a 7 yr deal is crazy, IMO. I like that Jim (apparently) recognizes this and is at least attempting to structure the contract in a way that makes sense. And please do not compare the Z offer to Soriano's deal. Soriano was on the open mkt.
  13. http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i73/bringthedoo/Cornholio.jpg I AM CHAN-HOLIO!!! I NEED T-P FOR MY BUNGHOLE!!!!"
  14. Following on some of the points made above, I think earlier on I advocated sending Z, Eyre and Izturis to NY for ARod and a prospect. That sounds like a pretty good deal to me. And BTW, Big Slick, you simply cannot compare Wood's deal 3 yrs ago to Z's current demands. Put simply, "square peg meets round hole."
  15. Dunno, but I suspect there will be fewer after their morning paper arrives.
  16. In sum, and for the record, my position is that: - 7 yrs and 100-something mill is too much for any pitcher not in the all-time upper echelon; - I'd therefore prefer to trade Z for ARod, a deal I think is very realistic; - This is not a reflection on my opinion of Z or his comments - good for him. He should be out there to get a fat contract.
  17. I just saw an ABC Channel 7 sports guy interview Hendry. He seemed totally shocked at what Zambrano said. I'm paraphrasing here: Hendry said that Z and his people have told him along that they want to get a deal done, but if in fact Z did say the things he did in the tone he did, then it's not really constructive. My 2 cents: I'd like Z to stay, but given his demands for contract duration and money (Zito contract), and the workload he's been under, I think the Cubs would be wise to move him. I don't think he's a punk or jackass for making the demand. He knows what he wants - I don't hold that against him. But I wouldn't pay him Zito money. Prior AND Miller showing up healthy could probably accelerate Hendry's decision to trade Z if the negotiation goes nowhere. Co-sign Z, Izturis, and Eyre to the Yanks for ARod and a prospect. How's this lineup look to you?: Soriano Murton ARod Lee ARam Jones Barrett DeRosa I know that this scenario leaves what appers to be a major hole in the rotation, but it assumes the Prior or Miller show themselves to be back on track prior to the trade deadline.
  18. +1 You can add me in as well. plus 3
  19. Yeah, I hate it when GM's trade away those all-too-valuable undersized righthanders who throw in the high 80's Maddux? Ah, I see, Ryu is as good as Maddux. I missed that notation in the scouting report.
  20. Lopez sounds like a decent prospect (I am not as concerned about the drop in nos b/c his OBP remained on the high side) based on what I am reading here. Ryu would have wasted away in AAA for a while, so I really don't have a problem with this deal at this point. One of my big issues with Jim has been that he holds onto prospects too long to the point where their value drops tremendously (see Cruz, Juan). Maybe he cut bait at the right time here.
  21. I would not sign Z to a 5 plus year deal worth 18 mill per. I don't know if I'd sign any pitcher to that sort of deal, lest his name were Koufax, Drysdale, Gibson, Matthewson, Maddux, Clemens....you get the point. I think Z for ARod (assuming he agrees to an extension) is a good deal for us, but that is just me.
  22. Even the sun has an eastern bias. Gives the sporting press a pretty nice excuse - if the constolations favor the east, then we must as well!
  23. And in other news, there are three outs per inning, and the Sun rises in the East...
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