Cheating really? I guess when a basketball player fouls at the end of the game on purpose to stop the clock, that's cheating too right? "Cheating is an act of lying, deception, fraud, trickery, imposture, or imposition. Cheating characteristically is employed to create an unfair advantage, usually in one's own interest, and often at the expense of others,[1] Cheating implies the breaking of rules. " Yea, I think that holding, pass interference, and roughing the passer all fit under there. Fouling in basketball is cheating too. The fact that its done because the penalty may not outweigh the reward is irrelevant. Anyways, the point I was making was that your line looked pretty good for instance (compared to the Bears), but due in large part to the holding of Peppers that kept happening. So in order for that strategy to be successful will almost always rely on not getting caught. If you hadn't held him at certain points, or interfered with receivers at certain points, they may have not looked as good as they did. And the Packers got called for those penalties in spades. And the Packers still almost won. And I don't know what you mean that the Packers wouldn't have looked so good since the Bears got over 150 free yards in penalties. Are you saying the Packers got away with some penalties as well? I'd like to see some examples. Just re watch the game and watch nothing but Peppers. You will see plenty of examples. They were holding him every pass play and only got called for 2. And as for the 150 free yards in penalties, you Packer fans still haven't said anything about the penalty on Melton that was total BS and led to a Packer TD. What about the holding penalty on Tauscher that negated the Packer TD? I say it evened out. I'm just about done here, but the Bears should be 1-2. They barely beat the Packers even with 170-some free yards in penalties, and the only reason they beat the Lions was because of a BS non-catch rule. 3-0 is smoke and mirrors at this point. And I fully acknowledge that the Packers got out of Philly by the skin of their teeth. Probably should have lost that game, but should have won last night, so 2-1 seems fair.