I was waiting for someone to mention that. :twisted: I would say Zambrano belongs in here, but I thought this year was going to be his breakout year. After watching him last year, I must admit, I had him penciled in for 20 wins this year. While it's technically still possible, it's just not going to happen. If I were to add one more guy to this list, it'd probably be Mark Beurhle or Mark Mulder. I really don't like Beurhle, but his numbers don't lie, and I think he has a great future ahead of him... if he stops accusing hall of fame pitchers of cheating that is. :wink: Mulder, when healthy, is one of the best pitchers in the game. He hasn't had the year that was expected of him this year, but don't be surprised if he puts up a late charge in the second half. I hope so regarding Mulder. He has shown flashes, but "streaky" is his middle name, and that's not what I look for in an "Ace". Beurhle is fantastic. I think of him as the best #2 pitcher in baseball. Prior to this year I would put Carpenter in that mold, but he has shown "Ace" stuff this year. Now we have to see if he can do it in October. I really like the new crop of young pitchers coming into the league. The next 10 years are going to be fun watching these guys return balance to the force :)