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Bah humbug! :D We can get along just fine without you working on Christmas

I, too, could be wrong, but I don't believe that the Cubs can dictate to WL teams where they want their guys to play. They can ask, but that's all. I don't know either, but seening as to how it seems to function more like an instructional league with players coming and going all the time I would think that having Cedeno play 2nd wouldn't be much of a problem.

At this point I think Hendry has to keep Walker. Neither Hairston nor Perez can put up the numbers he can and each is a marginal upgrade on defense. Now, if Hendry wants to go with Perez at SS, Cedeno is probably a marginal upgrade over Walker, but Cedeno hasn't played a lick of second base this winter. I could be wrong, but common sense would dictate that if Hendry were considering Cedeno for 2nd he would have instructed whomever is in charge to play him a 2nd. The problem is, common sense and the Cubs managment seem to have a distant relationship.

I agree 100%. we are talking about a pitcher that has combined for 156 innings the past three years. and contrary to what has been said earlier, he's not in his early 20's, he turned 25 a few days ago (not that his age is the death of his potential). furthermore, if this trade is gutting the system for a player that isn't a difference maker (and for the record, I disagree that Huff wouldn't be a difference maker), what would happen to the system for a guy that is a difference maker? edit: this is posted before seeing what Tim wrote about misinterpreting. nonetheless, I think Guzman's greatest value to this team, considering the presence of Williams and Hill, is to ship him out. yes, players recover from injury, but rarely does a pitcher recover from labrum surgery and go onto have any sustained success. Guzaman has already come back for labrum surgery, if one wants to belive the reports of people who post here and has seen him pitch, Baseball America, Cub scouts, other team's scouts, and radar guns. In limited work last year after the mysterious forearm injury he came back to pitch very well, ALL THE VELOCITY WAS BACK, as were the crispness of his breaking pitches. However, he was uncharecteristicly wild. The wildness is somewhat understandable given the limited amount of innings he's pitched. Guzman is a definate injury risk, but he is also still the Cubs best pitching prsospect. It is foolish to trade him plus another player for soemone like Huff. Huff hasn't been a difference maker in his entire career and is coming off his worst season in the majors. I think he has potential but his value should be low as he is going to be expensive after next year.

If we start patterson in RF and he flops, there will be no deadline deal. You don't broker big deals in a push for 4th place. But you do postpone Kerry Wood's surgery to get him some set up work. [-(

I have wanted Huff since last year. I think this is a case of buying low. Huff is not as bad on defense as people here make him out to be. That said he is probably below average. However, I do not like this deal one bit. The Cubs are giving up way, way, too much. Guzman throws strikes, has velocity, and fantastic secondary pitches. We all know the injury trouble, but he is still in his low 20s. Guzman's trade value could not be lower. I really wish Hendry would offer up another pithcing prospect. This deal further reminds me how foolish it was to give up so much for Slappy Pierre.

Do you say, "Q-tip" instead of cotton swab or "Kleenex" instead of tissue? Big difference. A q-tip is a q-tip. It doesn't matter what brand, same with a kleenex. A coke, pepsi, sprite, dr. pepper, mountain dew, etc are all very different. what? Q-tip is a brand name and so is Kleenex. You can get Scott's tissues and you can get CVS brand cotton swabs. There is no difference. What's the difference between Q-tips and generic cotton swabs? Between Kleenex and Puffs? Very little. Now what's the difference between Coke and Mountain Dew? There is no difference in Georgia. Everything is a coke. there is pepsi coke, moutain dew coke, well you get the point.

Do you say, "Q-tip" instead of cotton swab or "Kleenex" instead of tissue? Big difference. A q-tip is a q-tip. It doesn't matter what brand, same with a kleenex. A coke, pepsi, sprite, dr. pepper, mountain dew, etc are all very different. what? Q-tip is a brand name and so is Kleenex. You can get Scott's tissues and you can get CVS brand cotton swabs. There is no difference.

What happened to St. Louis's pursuit of Jack?

hahahaha! He is also brutally honest and a marxist. Two traits that make for a high level of volatility. i'm a powder-keg, man. I wouldn't have it any other way.

hahahaha! He is also brutally honest and a marxist. Two traits that make for a high level of volatility.

Isn't Wilson right handed?

You are my hero BK :trophy:

But how many did the Cubs lose b/c of the matchup? The world may never know.

That's a given with that fool. He did it with Burnitz so you know he will do it with Jones. And the catcher has to bat 8th because, well, he is the catcher.

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Look out for Millwalkee, they could be the 06 White Sox.

The part I bolded is exactly what is wrong with Jim Hendry and the Cubs. Why does the person have to be left handed? Hendry spent most of the off-season looking for a leadoff batter? What position does a leadoff batter play? ahhhhhh!

Do you say, "Q-tip" instead of cotton swab or "Kleenex" instead of tissue?

Disgruntled player that everyone knew wanted to be gone and the team trying to get the most out of the trade while at the same time trying not to seem desperate to get rid of him How about A-Rod? It is not hard to see, but whatever.

It sounds like Baltimore is doing what a lot of home owners here do when then are thinking of selling a house, put it on the market for way more than it is worth and see if anybody bites. Well, the housing market bubble is bursting with every 1/4 point uptick Greenspan makes. I expect the Tejada market bubble to burst soon too. Nobodody, and I mean nobody is going to give them an All-Star position player and a top pitchers. Does this remind anyone of the Sammy Sosa saga from last year? I think Tejada will be dealt, but it probably won't be until late January or early Febuary unless either Baltimore or the trading partner gets nervous.

There would be pandimonium in Mahopac, NY

The only thing in that line that is sub-par is slugging. IFthe Cubs could land either Abreu or Tejada they could very well get away with Murton's lack of power. I knew he doesn't project for much power but he does generate very good bat speed, if he can learn to seperate and elevate a little more I think he could become a 20-25 HR hitter. Not too shabby for the "stepchild"*. *I have nothing against stepchildren or redheads, it is a nickname. A .280 AVG would've placed Murton of 13th of 22 qualified LF'ers last year. A .340 OBP would've been 16th of 22. A .760 OPS would've been 18th of 22. I think "decidedly subpar" is a pretty good way of putting it. I was speaking in terms of a "rookie" season although I know he no longer qualifies as a rookie. I also think only using "qualified" LFers is a bit too narrow. In any event I don't think those numbers are sub par. LFers with at least 350 PA's, Murton would make 30: A .280 AVG would've been 18th. A .340 OBP would've been 22nd. A .760 OPS would've 23rd. His numbers would be about average for a CF, but at a corner he's pretty easily below. And for Rookies with 350 PAs that line would put him just behind Jonny Gomes and just ahead of Iguchi in 8th place. IF the Cubs could get more power production from either RF or SS I could live that line. Especially if he demonstrates a little more pop and cracks the .800 OPS mark. Something like .280/.340/.470 I don't think that is unrealistic at all.

The only thing in that line that is sub-par is slugging. IFthe Cubs could land either Abreu or Tejada they could very well get away with Murton's lack of power. I knew he doesn't project for much power but he does generate very good bat speed, if he can learn to seperate and elevate a little more I think he could become a 20-25 HR hitter. Not too shabby for the "stepchild"*. *I have nothing against stepchildren or redheads, it is a nickname. A .280 AVG would've placed Murton of 13th of 22 qualified LF'ers last year. A .340 OBP would've been 16th of 22. A .760 OPS would've been 18th of 22. I think "decidedly subpar" is a pretty good way of putting it. I was speaking in terms of a "rookie" season although I know he no longer qualifies as a rookie. I also think only using "qualified" LFers is a bit too narrow. In any event I don't think those numbers are sub par.

The only thing in that line that is sub-par is slugging. IFthe Cubs could land either Abreu or Tejada they could very well get away with Murton's lack of power. I knew he doesn't project for much power but he does generate very good bat speed, if he can learn to seperate and elevate a little more I think he could become a 20-25 HR hitter. Not too shabby for the "stepchild"*. *I have nothing against stepchildren or redheads, it is a nickname.