yeah i get that it's a rule, but i just don't like the rule. maybe there could be a different rule for inside/outside the box? an example of the type of reds that i hate is when there's a loose attacking player chasing down a ball in the box (kind of a breakaway, but the offensive player is chasing the ball rather than controlling it.) goalie comes out to try to smother the ball or knock it away, dives and clips the attacking player's foot, and the attacker goes down. on a lot of those plays the attacking player kicks the ball past the goalie, often kicks it too hard (to the point where it's either going out or would be a shot from a severe angle), and is rewarded with a PK and the goalie getting tossed from the game. just strikes me as a BS rule - like in hockey, i wouldn't want a team to play shorthanded the rest of the game if they haul down a guy on a breakaway... and goals are way less likely on the penalty shot in hockey than they are in soccer.