College Football - Week 6 (Oct. 5)

[minnesotacubsfan]

1 hour ago, Tim said:

Honoring Native Americans in a totally lazy, kinda racist way (didn't care enough to get it right, hasn't ever been corrected since then) 

(I say this as a formerly proud supporter of Chief Illiniwek)

idk, taking a misunderstood native american word or statement and using it to create a fight chant for your school seems far less racists than using a highly stylised and brutalized image as your actual mascot. The worst thing about the Gophers is that Ojibwe people might laugh at the mispronunciation and chalk it up to "silly white people" while Illinois completely mis-appropriated an actual tribe

Edited October 6, 2024 by minnesotacubsfan

[Tim]

1 hour ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

idk, taking a misunderstood native american word or statement and using it to create a fight chant for your school seems far less racists than using a highly stylised and brutalized image as your actual mascot. The worst thing about the Gophers is that Ojibwe people might laugh at the mispronunciation and chalk it up to "silly white people" while Illinois completely mis-appropriated an actual tribe

Note I said "former" on my post. Illinois should ditch the Chief. They should also change the "Fighting Illini" unless the tribe is in favor of the continued use. 

Minnesota misunderstanding the phrase and continuing with it and just saying "the white guy was right" definitely isn't as bad, but you may want to rethink using it on a frequent basis. And defending something that's a little racist by pointing to something that's more racist...isn't a great look.

Just saying.

But I feel like I've wandered into virtue signaling territory here when I started with honest curiosity about the origins of the phrase, so I'm going to leave it alone after this one.