2014 NBA Draft Thread

[Rex Buckingham]

Really like that pick for Philly, worth the risk with still having pick 10. Easily could have gotten the best player in the draft

 

Totally agree. Great pick. At worst they have the best front line the league in 2-3 years.

 

no, at worst Embiid becomes Greg Oden and Nerlens Noel doesn't develop an offensive game and ends up being Omer Asik with good hands (who would be a good player, but not part of the best front line in the league)

[Cubswin11]

Actually they control him for 5 years but more like 7.

 

 

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It's 4 I thought? First 2 years guaranteed and then 2 team option years follow that.

[Rex Buckingham]

Actually they control him for 5 years but more like 7.

 

 

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It's 4 I thought? First 2 years guaranteed and then 2 team option years follow that.

 

but then he's a restricted free agent and they get him if they want him

[UMFan83]

Actually they control him for 5 years but more like 7.

 

 

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It's 4 I thought? First 2 years guaranteed and then 2 team option years follow that.

 

Yeah but after that they can give him a qualifying offer or try to extend him. If he doesn't take the qualifying offer or refuses an extension, he can become a RFA, which in that case, the team can match any offer. So essentially they control him for 5 years, but if he doesnt take the QO, they control him for at least 3 more years (standard post-rookie contract)

[Cubswin11]

Actually they control him for 5 years but more like 7.

 

 

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It's 4 I thought? First 2 years guaranteed and then 2 team option years follow that.

 

Yeah but after that they can give him a qualifying offer or try to extend him. If he doesn't take the qualifying offer or refuses an extension, he can become a RFA, which in that case, the team can match any offer. So essentially they control him for 5 years, but if he doesnt take the QO, they control him for at least 3 more years (standard post-rookie contract)

Yeah I know he's essentially guaranteed to be around longer with how the CBA works I was just saying only 4 are "guaranteed." With Derwood saying he's 3 years and out.

[WrigleyField 22]

2 years plus 2 option years. 5th year is at worst a QO, but more realistically he signs a new deal as a RFA that they could match in which he'd be able to opt out after 3 years.

 

7th year is also when the max bumps up to 30% so makes sense that's when an opt out would be.

 

 

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[Cubswin11]

Exum, Burke and Burks along with potentially keeping Hayward who plays some 2. Seems like too many guards unless they plan on letting Hayward walk or trading Burke/Burks.

[Cubswin11]

2 years plus 2 option years. 5th year is at worst a QO, but more realistically he signs a new deal as a RFA that they could match in which he'd be able to opt out after 3 years.

 

7th year is also when the max bumps up to 30% so makes sense that's when an opt out would be.

 

 

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Yeah, basically what PG/Boogie did this past offseason

[RynoRules]

Really like that pick for Philly, worth the risk with still having pick 10. Easily could have gotten the best player in the draft

 

Totally agree. Great pick. At worst they have the best front line the league in 2-3 years.

 

no, at worst Embiid becomes Greg Oden and Nerlens Noel doesn't develop an offensive game and ends up being Omer Asik with good hands (who would be a good player, but not part of the best front line in the league)

 

Embiid is a much better player than Oden. Much better athlete and far more polished game. Oden had/has no jumper or moves around the basket. He was pure power. Noel is a far better athlete than Asik. His ceiling is Tyson Chandler and his floor Tyrus Thomas. Your comparisons make no sense.

[Rex Buckingham]

Really like that pick for Philly, worth the risk with still having pick 10. Easily could have gotten the best player in the draft

 

Totally agree. Great pick. At worst they have the best front line the league in 2-3 years.

 

no, at worst Embiid becomes Greg Oden and Nerlens Noel doesn't develop an offensive game and ends up being Omer Asik with good hands (who would be a good player, but not part of the best front line in the league)

 

Embiid is a much better player than Oden. Much better athlete and far more polished game. Oden had/has no jumper or moves around the basket. He was pure power. Noel is a far better athlete than Asik. His ceiling is Tyson Chandler and his floor Tyrus Thomas. Your comparisons make no sense.

 

He becomes Oden if his injuries keep him from ever making an impact... not saying it will happen, but big guys with back and foot injuries don't have great track records... the human body just doesn't work like that.

 

And Asik probably was a bad comparison, I just thought of the first defense-only big man I could think of that actually has some talent.

[RynoRules]

I think Randle could end up being a steal for the Lakers at 7. He's Zach Randolph with a pulse.

[RynoRules]

Hey look - the Kings just drafted a taller Fredette.

 

Why not take Harris there? At least he can defend. Kings are very poorly run franchise.

[Cubswin11]

Hey look - the Kings just drafted a taller Fredette.

 

Why not take Harris there? At least he can defend. Kings are very poorly run franchise.

Stauskus is much better than Jimmer, more athletic and 4-5 inches taller. Probably nearly as good a shooter

[RynoRules]

Hey look - the Kings just drafted a taller Fredette.

 

Why not take Harris there? At least he can defend. Kings are very poorly run franchise.

Stauskus is much better than Jimmer, more athletic and 4-5 inches taller. Probably nearly as good a shooter

 

You are probably right, but Harris and Vonleh were there.

[Cubswin11]

Hey look - the Kings just drafted a taller Fredette.

 

Why not take Harris there? At least he can defend. Kings are very poorly run franchise.

Stauskus is much better than Jimmer, more athletic and 4-5 inches taller. Probably nearly as good a shooter

 

You are probably right, but Harris and Vonleh were there.

Don't disagree that Harris was a better option, just that Staukus-Jimmer comp isn't right. I think they should have gone Elfrid Payton, personally.

[UMFan83]

@chadfordinsider The Philadelphia 76ers take Dario Saric with the No. 10 pick in the draft

 

Ahh no

[RynoRules]

Hey look - the Kings just drafted a taller Fredette.

 

Why not take Harris there? At least he can defend. Kings are very poorly run franchise.

Stauskus is much better than Jimmer, more athletic and 4-5 inches taller. Probably nearly as good a shooter

 

You are probably right, but Harris and Vonleh were there.

Don't disagree that Harris was a better option, just that Staukus-Jimmer comp isn't right. I think they should have gone Elfrid Payton, personally.

 

I agree. Or take Vonleh and trade him for a guard.

[RynoRules]

@chadfordinsider The Philadelphia 76ers take Dario Saric with the No. 10 pick in the draft

 

Ahh no

 

Ford is a joke

[RynoRules]

Shite, I wanted McDermott to fall to Bulls.

 

BTW, where are all the trades we kept hearing about?

 

EDIT: And of course Simmons compared McDermott to Adam Morrison. He's obsessed with Morrison.

Edited June 27, 2014 by RynoRules

[Guest]

apparently mcdermott is headed to the bulls

[RynoRules]

[expletive], I wanted McDermott to fall to Bulls.

 

BTW, where are all the trades we kept hearing about?

 

EDIT: And of course Simmons compared McDermott to Adam Morrison. He's obsessed with Morrison.

 

Wow! Source?

 

EDIT: Just reported on ESPN. Love it.

Edited June 27, 2014 by RynoRules

[Andy]

Bulls trading both their picks for McDermott. Must really like him

[WrigleyField 22]

I like it!

 

 

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[Cubswin11]

16 and 19 for him, as Simmons just said helps them save some money in a Melo acquisition

[Derwood]

The guy on the far right on the ESPN panel needs to stop saying that this is a "weird draft"

 

Interesting to see a guy like McDermott on the Bulls.