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Box Scores

 

Iowa at New Orleans Cancelled - Venue (Hurricane Isaac)

 

Tennessee won 5-0 Box Score

 

CF M. Szczur 2/5, R

SS L. Watkins 1/4, 2B (19), BB, K

RF JH Ha 0/4, RBI, 3 K

1B J. Bour 1/4, 2 R, BB

C A. Recker 1/4, 2 K

3B J. Lake 1/2, R, BB, HBP, 2 SB (21)

LF R. Silva 2/4, R, HR (2), 4 RBI

SP C. Rusin 3 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, 4-2 GO-FO, 33-23 pitches-strikes; batting: 0/1

RP N. Struck 5.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 6 K, 5-5 GO-FO, 97-62 pitches-strikes; batting: 0/3, 2 K

RP T. Zych 0.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K, 1-0 GO-FO

 

Daytona won 4-3 on a walk-off Rebel Ridling double Box Score

 

CF J. Andreoli 0/5, 2 K

2B R. Torreyes 0/4, BB

3B C. Villanueva 1/5, R, 3 K, SB (3)

1B R. Ridling 4/5, R, 2B (16), HR (5), 2 RBI

SS Ja. Baez 0/4, 2 K

DH R. Lopez 1/2, R, 2B (10), 2 BB

SP K. Burke 4 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, HBP, 5-4 GO-FO

 

Peoria vs. Cedar Rapids Cancelled - Rain

 

Boise lost 6-4 Box Score

 

2B G. Amaya 2/3, 2 R, BB, K, SB (15)

SS S. Bruno 2/4, 2B (19)

3B J. Candeario 2/3, 2 RBI, K

1B D. Vogelbach 1/4, K, pickoff

C W. Contreras 0/4, R

CF A. Almora 0/4

PH M. Hernandez 1/1, R, RBI

DH R. Shoulders 2/4, 2B (11), RBI

LF T. Martin 0/4, 3 K, CS (5), PO

SP F. Peña 5 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 WP, 7-1 GO-FO

RP H. Simpson 2 IP, 6 H, 6 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, 1 HR, 1-1 GO-FO

 

OVERALL: 2-1

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It will be interesting to see who, if anyone, will be promoted from Mesa to Boise. Probably a few older arms like Paniagua, Martinez-Pumarino and Kim.
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Speaking of Paniagua, anyone know what Law said about him on Insider? Sounded from a post or two on Twitter to be very positive.
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Speaking of Paniagua, anyone know what Law said about him on Insider? Sounded from a post or two on Twitter to be very positive.

 

 

The Cubs signed Juan Carlos Paniagua in mid-July for $1.5 million, a signing that was notable not just for its value but because it marked Paniagua's third contract with an MLB organization. He signed with the Diamondbacks in 2009 and pitched in the Dominican Republic, only to have the contract voided by MLB because he signed the deal under an assumed identity, and then went through a similar issue after signing with the Yankees in 2011 due to fraudulent idenfitication papers. His listed date of birth, April 4th, 1990, is considered unconfirmed by MLB, but unless he's actually 30 years old, it doesn't really matter given how good his arm is.

 

Jed Hoyer, Theo EpsteinKyle Terada/US PresswireJed Hoyer and Theo Epstein have been busy and effective on the prospect front.

 

Paniagua made his second appearance for the Cubs (and thus second pro appearance in the U.S.) on Sunday night, facing five batters across two innings of work. He was at 92-94 mph in his first inning and 93-97 in the second, with the velocity about as effortless as you can imagine. His slider was above-average, 83-87, very sharp with some tilt but more vertical than horizontal break. His changeup was below-average at 79-80 and if he'd told the hitters it was coming via semaphore it wouldn't have been more obvious.

 

He's listed at 6-foot-1, 175, and doesn't have a ton of projection remaining, not that you'd expect much more fastball in the future. He takes a very long stride to the plate and generates velocity more with his lower half than his upper half, which should increase his ability to stay healthy. Given his age and present stuff he'd be a candidate to go start next year in full-season ball, maybe even Daytona, although getting him used to handling a starter's workload every fifth day will also be a priority.

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Chris Rusin to AA for a spot start tonight.
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i bet keith law will inherit all kg's trolls
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Javy is 0-3 with 2 K's to start tonight.

 

I suppose you could spin his struggles in Daytona into a positive, but I was hoping we had a fast mover on our hands. Now I question if he'll see Tennessee next year.

 

Not panicking, but just more of an "aw shucks."

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Javy is 0-3 with 2 K's to start tonight.

 

I suppose you could spin his struggles in Daytona into a positive, but I was hoping we had a fast mover on our hands. Now I question if he'll see Tennessee next year.

 

Not panicking, but just more of an "aw shucks."

I wouldn't worry at all. Way too small and scattered of a sample size. How he performs in the AFL will tell us a bit more, but I fully expect him to get half a season in Tennessee next year, with an extremely slight chance of him even starting there.

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Javy is 0-3 with 2 K's to start tonight.

 

I suppose you could spin his struggles in Daytona into a positive, but I was hoping we had a fast mover on our hands. Now I question if he'll see Tennessee next year.

 

Not panicking, but just more of an "aw shucks."

 

I'm pretty sure he'll see Tennessee (barring injury) next season.

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Javy is 0-3 with 2 K's to start tonight.

 

I suppose you could spin his struggles in Daytona into a positive, but I was hoping we had a fast mover on our hands. Now I question if he'll see Tennessee next year.

 

Not panicking, but just more of an "aw shucks."

I wouldn't worry at all. Way too small and scattered of a sample size. How he performs in the AFL will tell us a bit more, but I fully expect him to get half a season in Tennessee next year, with an extremely slight chance of him even starting there.

 

If he starts in Tennessee next year, I want Brandon Hyde out so someone more conservative like Oneri Fleita can come back.

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Hayden Simpson's 23 now and continues to get knocked around at the lowest levels. Does he get one more year?

 

My hunch is that it may depend on if Wilken is around, but at this point, it's clear that his arm simply never got back to what it once was (leaving aside the debate of how good he was to begin with is the fact that even the most pessimistic Simpson person pre-draft has to acknowledge that the velocity now isn't what it was then ... low end numbers pre-draft were always low 90's).

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Yeah, seriously. I didn't really want him to move to Daytona this year to be honest.

 

I didn't mind it, or at least, I think I didn't mind it. There are things that we can't know, like how he handles failure and instruction, but he clearly wasn't being challenged in Peoria enough, and with Alcantara's injury, there was an opening. If the Cubs felt he was a mentally tough kid, then whatever happened at Daytona is fine.

 

Now ... he has to learn and put it into action. Easier said than done, but I expect he will adjust. I'm more curious about how he handles the jump to AA, which I still expect to happen next year.

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Javy is 0-3 with 2 K's to start tonight.

 

I suppose you could spin his struggles in Daytona into a positive, but I was hoping we had a fast mover on our hands. Now I question if he'll see Tennessee next year.

 

Not panicking, but just more of an "aw shucks."

I wouldn't worry at all. Way too small and scattered of a sample size. How he performs in the AFL will tell us a bit more, but I fully expect him to get half a season in Tennessee next year, with an extremely slight chance of him even starting there.

 

If he starts in Tennessee next year, I want Brandon Hyde out so someone more conservative like Oneri Fleita can come back.

 

Fleita was ... an enigma. There were guys that I thought were pushed fast ... and then there were guys that I thought were slow-played. I remember that summer when Vitters was sent back to Boise and there were loose rumors on why that happened ... I kept wishing he was pushed faster.

 

Very curious how Hyde turns out. I wasn't impressed with the Marlins system the last few years, but how much of a role Hyde had in that is debatable.

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