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You don't think ND looked better in November. Outside of Rees, they did. You are free to disagree. I don't know if you watched any ND games since you hate the team, so maybe you're not the best judge of whether they improved.

I disagree. I thought they, overall, looked better in the beginning of the year, but the stupid turnovers (and some bad luck) really did them in against South Florida and Michigan. Up until USC, they were clearly the best team on the field in each game. Starting with USC and continuing through Saturday, the lack of depth and poor QB play really did them in. November consisted of too close games against crappy major conference teams and a poor showing against Stanford. Not sure how someone would think that's good.

 

I said except Rees. Jonas Gray was a new man until his knee blew out. The secondary looked better, esp after the UM debacle. Where they looked bad was where they lost key starters including C and both DEs. But the kids looked much better late in the year than in September when, for example, Aaron Lynch was almost solely a pass rusher.

Well, I guess guys like Aaron Lynch played better later in the year, but overall they looked clearly overmatched against both USC and Stanford. Early in the season, they dominated two good teams in MSU and Michigan for 7 quarters (excluding the 4th quarter against Michigan when Gary Gray forgot how to play football). Overall, a pretty disappointing season as they were a top 10-15 team in the country based on talent. Can't really expect an improvement next year, as both Floyd and Te'o are gone, and this team makes too many mistakes to trust the coaching staff. With Floyd and Gray gone, I think they need to go with Hendrix to have any shot at a dynamic offense.

 

Teo will be back. He's not a first round pick right now. And he skipped his mission to graduate from ND. I don't think his mom will let him leave early. The starter will be Hendrix or Golson. Neither was ready to play big minutes this year. With Floyd gone, it'd be great to land another big time WR recruit, but they have depth there. And hopefully GAIII will look as good at RB as he has returning punts.

 

The OL and Rees didn't play well against USC. Teo had a poor game too. But the OL did after that. They struggled with a pretty average Pitt team in September bc Rees was terrible. Struggled against a poor BC team with a solid defense for the same reason. Actually, they only didn't blow out Wake bc Rees struggled there too. Dominated some pretty average to poor teams in Navy, AF, and Maryland at different times during the year.

 

If you think they were overmatched against Stanford, you were watching a different game. They looked better against UM and MSU bc those two teams aren't as good as USC and Stanford.

Teo is #15 on Kiper's Big Board. Coupled with the problems he's had with Kelly, I'd be very surprised if he returns. As for WR, they already have Ferguson out of Florida, and got Davaris Daniels last year. Neither, of course, is as good as Floyd, but certainly provides some hope.

 

As for the Stanford game, the defense played pretty well, but the secondary is still a weakness and it shows against QB's like Luck and Barkley. ND is slowly building talent on both sides of the ball to compete with the best teams in the country, but I think they'll be stuck in the 15-25 range until they can get a good QB and some more depth. Hopefully Kelly's bet on the USC game didn't kill the recruiting class this year.

 

Clausen was #1 on Kiper's big board. Quinn was in his top 5, I think. And graduating is more important to Teo's family than his love or hate for Kelly.

 

The secondary was the next biggest need to improve after DL. The have 2 of the top CBs in the country coming in, so hopefully they help right away. Though I think the need for an OLB that can play in space is big. They have a true freshman BK loves for that spot. Hope he develops quickly. As for development, Gray had a shot at and NFL roster before the knee injury, H Smith developed into a stud SS, and Floyd became faster and a more complete WR, just to name a few. It'll be fun to see what they can do with guys that fit their offense and defense after 2 years in the system.

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it was nice of GR to pick up where meph left off as the worst college football thread poster

 

Hey guys, remember when imb used to be fun? Or better yet, funny?

 

remember when gr didn't get butthurt and irrational anytime notre dame was mentioned hahaha jk

 

"GRADUATING IS VERY IMPORTANT TO TEO'S FAMILY!!!!!!!!" *tears flow*

 

is this [expletive] serious

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it was nice of GR to pick up where meph left off as the worst college football thread poster

 

Hey guys, remember when imb used to be fun? Or better yet, funny?

 

remember when gr didn't get butthurt and irrational anytime notre dame was mentioned hahaha jk

 

"GRADUATING IS VERY IMPORTANT TO TEO'S FAMILY!!!!!!!!" *tears flow*

 

is this [expletive] serious

 

Remember when imb didn't freak out before OU played a game when they were overrated?

 

Teo picked ND over USC when he woke up at like 4am on signing day and god told him to go to ND. Is this how I make life plans? No it is not (maybe it should be, given that he's maybe the best MLB in cfb). But that's important to him and his family. I'd think millions of dollars could change mama's mind, but maybe not.

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What impressive wins does OSU have?

 

After Saturday, the same number as Alabama. And they've played a much more difficult schedule(8 games against Sagarin's Top 30, 3 for Alabama).

 

The same Sagarin top 30 that has Texas A&M at #12, Missouri at #18 and Iowa State at #29?

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it was nice of GR to pick up where meph left off as the worst college football thread poster

 

Hey guys, remember when imb used to be fun? Or better yet, funny?

 

remember when gr didn't get butthurt and irrational anytime notre dame was mentioned hahaha jk

 

"GRADUATING IS VERY IMPORTANT TO TEO'S FAMILY!!!!!!!!" *tears flow*

 

is this [expletive] serious

 

Remember when imb didn't freak out before OU played a game when they were overrated?

 

huh

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it was nice of GR to pick up where meph left off as the worst college football thread poster

 

Hey guys, remember when imb used to be fun? Or better yet, funny?

 

remember when gr didn't get butthurt and irrational anytime notre dame was mentioned hahaha jk

 

"GRADUATING IS VERY IMPORTANT TO TEO'S FAMILY!!!!!!!!" *tears flow*

 

is this [expletive] serious

 

Remember when imb didn't freak out before OU played a game when they were overrated?

 

huh

 

That may be an outside nsbb reference but don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about.

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That may be an outside nsbb reference but don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about.

 

that's my sulley-like effort to talk myself through upcoming disappointment. i like to get in front of it before it happens.

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That may be an outside nsbb reference but don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about.

 

that's my sulley-like effort to talk myself through upcoming disappointment. i like to get in front of it before it happens.

 

 

you guys fight like girls, take it to fight club

 

 

fight fight fight fight fight fight

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That may be an outside nsbb reference but don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about.

 

that's my sulley-like effort to talk myself through upcoming disappointment. i like to get in front of it before it happens.

 

That's what she said?

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