Re: 2009 Chicago Blackhawks

[bcl412]

Dear Columbus,

 

We're better then you.

 

Now you know that.

[kujay]

Gotta give credit to Seabrook for holding that puck in at the point and Fraser for the great pass. I hope Seabrook gets the second assist on that.

 

EDIT: Kopecky had a touch in there so he got the other assist.

[17 Seconds]

Huets a stud!

 

More importantly this team struggles on the road.

 

no they dont

 

11-10 on the road if they lose this one isn't struggling considering their overall record?

 

 

well for starters, their record woudn't have been 11-10.

 

and no, 11-6-3 is far from struggling. they're good on the road and amazing at home

[kujay]

This is...well, I was about to say this was going to be an uncomfortable six minutes. Then Nash got stupid.

[kujay]

Ballgame. Johnny is good.

[bcl412]

That should probably do it (although after the Minnesota game I can't say it's over for sure.)

[kujay]

That was a Kane-esque roofer.

[17 Seconds]

lol @ the columbus broadcasting following brouwer for the 30 seconds after the goal thinking he was toews (they even put toews name up under brouwer)

[kujay]

WTF was that? And Huet got abused, though I'm not blaming him.

[17 Seconds]

awesome, more defensive breakdowns.

[kujay]

Foley has a serious crush on Hjalmarsson, but he is really good these days.

[UMFan83]

Huets a stud!

 

More importantly this team struggles on the road.

 

no they dont

 

11-10 on the road if they lose this one isn't struggling considering their overall record?

 

 

well for starters, their record woudn't have been 11-10.

 

and no, 11-6-3 is far from struggling. they're

good on the road and amazing at home

 

11 wins in 20 games is mediocre and and most would agree.

[kujay]

Yeesh. But good job. Division games will be this way sometimes. On to Detroit...

[bcl412]

Thank God they won.

 

I'm not sure how I feel about these afternoon games but hopefully they can take care of business against the Wings tomorrow.

[Butterscup1679666578]

holy [expletive] what the hell happened

[bcl412]

Thank God they won.

 

I'm not sure how I feel about these afternoon games but hopefully they can take care of business against the Wings tomorrow.

[17 Seconds]

Huets a stud!

 

More importantly this team struggles on the road.

 

no they dont

 

11-10 on the road if they lose this one isn't struggling considering their overall record?

 

 

well for starters, their record woudn't have been 11-10.

 

and no, 11-6-3 is far from struggling. they're

good on the road and amazing at home

 

11 wins in 20 games is mediocre and and most would agree.

 

it's one of the better road records in the conference, but whatever you say.

 

above average record = struggling?

[bcl412]

The Hawks have won 30 out of 42 road points now. That's pretty good.

[bcl412]

The Hawks have won 30 out of 42 road points now. That's pretty good.

[UMFan83]

 

no they dont

 

11-10 on the road if they lose this one isn't struggling considering their overall record?

 

 

well for starters, their record woudn't have been 11-10.

 

and no, 11-6-3 is far from struggling. they're

good on the road and amazing at home

 

11 wins in 20 games is mediocre and and most would agree.

 

it's one of the better road records in the conference, but whatever you say.

 

above average record = struggling?

 

 

Yeah when you are a team contending for a Presidents Trophy they need to do better on the road as I've seen several "experts" point out about the Hawks.

[17 Seconds]

just don't know how a team is struggling on the road when their road record is one of the best in the conference

[UMFan83]

just don't know how a team is struggling on the road when their road record is one of the best in the conference

 

Look at the top teams in hockey. NJ has a 16-6 (72%) road record, Pittsburgh has a 16-10 (62%) road record, Buffalo 13-6 (68%), San Jose 16-8 (67%). The Hawks were 11-9 (55%) when I made the comment, thats a worse road record than 4 of the other 5 division leaders (and the one division leader that's worse has a 54% winning%) and 6th out of 15 teams in the Western Conference, including below 2 teams in their own division (Nashville and St. Louis). So yeah, for a team that is tied for the most points in hockey, having a road winning percentage that is 6th in their conference and 10th in the league is struggling in my mind. They are a great team but the reason right now that they are tied for the most points in hockey is largely because of how well they've played at home and the fact that they've played 6 more home games than road games so far this year.

 

That said, I have all the confidence in the world that the Hawks can and will play better on the road.

 

Edit: Oh and the reason I simplify records by putting OTLs in with the losses is because I think the most important way to evaluate and compare the records is with winning %. I'm not concerned with whether the Hawks got an extra point because they lost a crapshoot shootout, I am concerned with how the Hawks do in the 60 minutes beforehand to pull away from their opponent on the road. Either they win the game or lose it is all I care about in my opinion, the extra points for a OTL are just a bonus in my book.

[17 Seconds]

just don't know how a team is struggling on the road when their road record is one of the best in the conference

 

Look at the top teams in hockey. NJ has a 16-6 (72%) road record, Pittsburgh has a 16-10 (62%) road record, Buffalo 13-6 (68%), San Jose 16-8 (67%). The Hawks were 11-9 (55%) when I made the comment, thats a worse road record than 4 of the other 5 division leaders (and the one division leader that's worse has a 54% winning%) and 6th out of 15 teams in the Western Conference, including below 2 teams in their own division (Nashville and St. Louis). So yeah, for a team that is tied for the most points in hockey, having a road winning percentage that is 6th in their conference and 10th in the league is struggling in my mind. They are a great team but the reason right now that they are tied for the most points in hockey is largely because of how well they've played at home and the fact that they've played 6 more home games than road games so far this year.

 

That said, I have all the confidence in the world that the Hawks can and will play better on the road.

 

Edit: Oh and the reason I simplify records by putting OTLs in with the losses is because I think the most important way to evaluate and compare the records is with winning %. I'm not concerned with whether the Hawks got an extra point because they lost a crapshoot shootout, I am concerned with how the Hawks do in the 60 minutes beforehand to pull away from their opponent on the road. Either they win the game or lose it is all I care about in my opinion, the extra points for a OTL are just a bonus in my book.

 

dude, you're completely contradicting yourself.

 

you say you're not concerned with whether the blackhawks lost in a crapshoot shootout, yet you are counting OT losses as regular losses. what kind of sense does that make?

 

if you actually want to follow the logic you're using, then the record you should be posting would be 11-6. you just said that you're more concerned with how they played in the 60 minutes, right? well 11-6 shows that, not 11-9.

[UMFan83]

just don't know how a team is struggling on the road when their road record is one of the best in the conference

 

Look at the top teams in hockey. NJ has a 16-6 (72%) road record, Pittsburgh has a 16-10 (62%) road record, Buffalo 13-6 (68%), San Jose 16-8 (67%). The Hawks were 11-9 (55%) when I made the comment, thats a worse road record than 4 of the other 5 division leaders (and the one division leader that's worse has a 54% winning%) and 6th out of 15 teams in the Western Conference, including below 2 teams in their own division (Nashville and St. Louis). So yeah, for a team that is tied for the most points in hockey, having a road winning percentage that is 6th in their conference and 10th in the league is struggling in my mind. They are a great team but the reason right now that they are tied for the most points in hockey is largely because of how well they've played at home and the fact that they've played 6 more home games than road games so far this year.

 

That said, I have all the confidence in the world that the Hawks can and will play better on the road.

 

Edit: Oh and the reason I simplify records by putting OTLs in with the losses is because I think the most important way to evaluate and compare the records is with winning %. I'm not concerned with whether the Hawks got an extra point because they lost a crapshoot shootout, I am concerned with how the Hawks do in the 60 minutes beforehand to pull away from their opponent on the road. Either they win the game or lose it is all I care about in my opinion, the extra points for an OTL are just a bonus in my book.

 

dude, you're completely contradicting yourself.

 

you say you're not concerned with whether the blackhawks lost in a crapshoot shootout, yet you are counting OT losses as regular losses. what kind of sense does that make?

 

if you actually want to follow the logic you're using, then the record you should be posting would be 11-6. you just said that you're more concerned with how they played in the 60 minutes, right? well 11-6 shows that, not 11-9.

 

That doesn't make any sense. I said I am not concerned with whether the Hawks lost a game in regulation or if they got an extra point for losing in OT or a shootout. They either won the game or they lost the game, which is what I said above. My primary concern is the percentage of games that the Hawks win on the road, and at the time I made the comment it was 11 out of 20.

 

Either way, it's stupid to keep this argument going. I think I proved that the Hawks are not world beaters on the road, and you proved its not as bad as I made it out to be when I was frustrated. Let's shake hands and cheer the Hawks on tomorrow morning.

[17 Seconds]

oh, and you put pitt ahead of the hawks, yet the hawks have gotten more PPG on the road. there's a perfect example of why your formula makes no sense.

 

nhl road ppg

 

devils- 1.43

sharks- 1.42

sabres- 1.37

flames- 1.35

blues- 1.33

predators- 1.33

blackhawks- 1.29

 

so no, they don't have the 10th best nhl road record. they have the 7th

 

and that's actually conclusive and relevant, unlike the bizarre winning percentage you're using.

 

the blackhawks are 5 best in the western conference on the road and 7th in the nhl. in no world is that sturggling. it's actually very good.

 

They are a great team but the reason right now that they are tied for the most points in hockey is largely because of how well they've played at home and the fact that they've played 6 more home games than road games so far this year.

 

 

no, that's not even close to being true. if they had played an equal amount of road/home games this season and you project the ppg out like that, you know how many points they'd have?

 

they'd have 69 points, which is exactly 1 less than they have now. that's how much the 4 game disparity in their schedule has given them in the standings. 1 point.