Iguchi to the Phillies

[Outshined_One]

Terrible trade...what has happened to Kenny Williams of late

 

Perhaps he's never been a very good GM in the first place and managed to extend his career because he caught lightning in a bottle in 2005?

[Flames24Rulz]

Now let's get Dye for as cheap as that.

[Friendly Confines]

According to Williams on 670, there was aboslutely no market for Iguchi until Utley got hurt, and the Sox wanted to see Richard(sp?) who is playing well in AAA.

[Soriano12]

According to Williams on 670, there was aboslutely no market for Iguchi until Utley got hurt, and the Sox wanted to see Richard(sp?) who is playing well in AAA.

 

Richar

 

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Danny%20Richar&pos=2B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=462950

[seanimal]

Terrible trade...what has happened to Kenny Williams of late

 

Perhaps he's never been a very good GM in the first place and managed to extend his career because he caught lightning in a bottle in 2005?

 

Ding Ding Ding

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

According to Williams on 670, there was aboslutely no market for Iguchi until Utley got hurt, and the Sox wanted to see Richard(sp?) who is playing well in AAA.

 

Richar

 

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Danny%20Richar&pos=2B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=462950

 

I'm still questioniong the Richar trade. He has good numbers and all, but I think it might come back to bite them.

[BeerHere]

Terrible trade...what has happened to Kenny Williams of late

 

Perhaps he's never been a very good GM in the first place and managed to extend his career because he caught lightning in a bottle in 2005?

 

Ding Ding Ding

FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RynoRules]

Williams has always been a classless blowhard, but now he is exposing himself as a poor evaluator as well.

[seanimal]

Yeah, aside from landing Thome and gambling on Dye, I really don't see how he's ever truly improved that team in any way shape or form. By my lazy armchair non-calculation, he's probably made the team worse.

[RynoRules]

Yeah, aside from landing Thome and gambling on Dye, I really don't see how he's ever truly improved that team in any way shape or form. By my lazy armchair non-calculation, he's probably made the team worse.

 

I guess I'd have to look more closely, but off-hand he is responsible for bringing in Garcia (now with Phils - so add-on Gavin Floyd and whoever else they received), Vazquez, Thome, Iguichi, Podsednik, Dye and a multitude of bench players and relievers. I am sure there are more.

 

He also allowed Thomas, Ordonez, and Lee to go, all with a great deal of acrimony if I recall correctly.

 

Did he draft Crede? Jenks? McCarthy? Anderson?

[RationalSoxFan]

Don't you think if he could've gotten more, he would have? Plus Iguchi has a clause in his contract which prevents compensation for him walking. Iguchi has looked terrible offensively and defensively this season, and Loretta's presence on the block certainly weakened the offers for Iguchi.

[seanimal]

Yeah, aside from landing Thome and gambling on Dye, I really don't see how he's ever truly improved that team in any way shape or form. By my lazy armchair non-calculation, he's probably made the team worse.

 

I guess I'd have to look more closely, but off-hand he is responsible for bringing in Garcia (now with Phils - so add-on Gavin Floyd and whoever else they received), Vazquez, Thome, Iguichi, Podsednik, Dye and a multitude of bench players and relievers. I am sure there are more.

 

He also allowed Thomas, Ordonez, and Lee to go, all with a great deal of acrimony if I recall correctly.

 

Did he draft Crede? Jenks? McCarthy? Anderson?

 

Well, I'll dive in a little deeper.

 

Good:

-Vazquez

-Thome

-Dye

 

Bad:

-Podsednik (for Carlos Lee lmao)(REALLY REALLY REALLY BAD)

-Grindy McFootball-Punter (what a waste of money, even if he had stayed healthy.)

 

Meh:

-letting go of Thomas and Ordonez. There were legitimate reasons as to why Williams did this, basically health/durability issues. Plus, the acquisition of Thome made Thomas redundant, though in my mind I'd probably prefer Thome/Thomas over Thome/Konerko.

-Tadahito Iguchi. (3.1 WARP1 in '05)

 

I'd assume he'd have to be given at least some credit for the drafting and development of Crede, Jenks, and most importantly, Mark Buerhle. On the flip side, I think he's made a few mistakes along the way, particularly in his decisions involving Anderson. Drafting his son was pretty funny.

 

Don't you think if he could've gotten more, he would have? Plus Iguchi has a clause in his contract which prevents compensation for him walking. Iguchi has looked terrible offensively and defensively this season, and Loretta's presence on the block certainly weakened the offers for Iguchi.

 

Stop being so rational.

[RationalSoxFan]

To be fair, El Caballo was a salary dump.

[seanimal]

To be fair, El Caballo was a salary dump.

 

To be fair, El Caballo was a production dump.

[RationalSoxFan]

The payroll they shed allowed them to sign AJP, Iguchi, and El Duque.