Why not trade Nevin?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I think it should be in the NSBB Guidelines that every post that honestly uses the phrase "Quite Frankly" should be followed with a post saying only "QUITE FRANKLY, THESE CHEESE DOODLES ARE DELICIOUS".

[DiamondMind]

$4.5 for a GG defensive SS entering his prime is hardly a 'waste'. Don't forget that it's not just the Cubs, the Dodgers are the one that signed this contract and believed he would be worth it. You want a waste? Check out Adrian Beltre. I'm sick of the never ending sarcastic comments on this board. Izturis hasn't donned the blue pinstripes for a single AB and you're writing him off. How would you feel if you got hired for a new office job and the entire building assumed you were a moron before your first day?

 

It's a waste when middle infield defense isn't the team's weakness. It's a waste when the biggest problem with the team is lack of offense, and they start counting on people with insanely bad offensive numbers. Just because the Dodgers felt that he was worth nearly 10M over 3 years does not make it a good contract. Somebody was foolish enough to give Neifi 2.5M. And what the hell does Beltre have to do with it? Izturis is being written off because of his history of inept offense. If I sucked at what I did and people at my new job knew it, they would have every right in the world to not be happy about bringing me on when other, better options may have been available.

 

You're more than welcome to stop visiting this board if the comments are too much to take. Quite frankly, I could do without the whining.

 

I really doubt Hendry is 'counting' on Izturis to carry the offense. Secondly, everyone on this board whines. Just because I have a different view than you doesn't mean I'm whining - come on now.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

$4.5 for a GG defensive SS entering his prime is hardly a 'waste'. Don't forget that it's not just the Cubs, the Dodgers are the one that signed this contract and believed he would be worth it. You want a waste? Check out Adrian Beltre. I'm sick of the never ending sarcastic comments on this board. Izturis hasn't donned the blue pinstripes for a single AB and you're writing him off. How would you feel if you got hired for a new office job and the entire building assumed you were a moron before your first day?

 

It's a waste when middle infield defense isn't the team's weakness. It's a waste when the biggest problem with the team is lack of offense, and they start counting on people with insanely bad offensive numbers. Just because the Dodgers felt that he was worth nearly 10M over 3 years does not make it a good contract. Somebody was foolish enough to give Neifi 2.5M. And what the hell does Beltre have to do with it? Izturis is being written off because of his history of inept offense. If I sucked at what I did and people at my new job knew it, they would have every right in the world to not be happy about bringing me on when other, better options may have been available.

 

You're more than welcome to stop visiting this board if the comments are too much to take. Quite frankly, I could do without the whining.

 

I really doubt Hendry is 'counting' on Izturis to carry the offense. Secondly, everyone on this board whines. Just because I have a different view than you doesn't mean I'm whining - come on now.

 

1) I never said Hendry is counting on him to carry the offense. Plugging someone in a lineup on a daily basis is counting on that person to produce, not carry.

2) Everyone on this board whines except you? Got it.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

$4.5 for a GG defensive SS entering his prime is hardly a 'waste'. Don't forget that it's not just the Cubs, the Dodgers are the one that signed this contract and believed he would be worth it. You want a waste? Check out Adrian Beltre. I'm sick of the never ending sarcastic comments on this board. Izturis hasn't donned the blue pinstripes for a single AB and you're writing him off. How would you feel if you got hired for a new office job and the entire building assumed you were a moron before your first day?

 

It's a waste when middle infield defense isn't the team's weakness. It's a waste when the biggest problem with the team is lack of offense, and they start counting on people with insanely bad offensive numbers. Just because the Dodgers felt that he was worth nearly 10M over 3 years does not make it a good contract. Somebody was foolish enough to give Neifi 2.5M. And what the hell does Beltre have to do with it? Izturis is being written off because of his history of inept offense. If I sucked at what I did and people at my new job knew it, they would have every right in the world to not be happy about bringing me on when other, better options may have been available.

 

You're more than welcome to stop visiting this board if the comments are too much to take. Quite frankly, I could do without the whining.

 

I really doubt Hendry is 'counting' on Izturis to carry the offense. Secondly, everyone on this board whines. Just because I have a different view than you doesn't mean I'm whining - come on now.

 

DiamondMind,

 

What do you like about the Cubs' current management (from Baker and the coaches and all the way up to the top)?

[DiamondMind]

1) I never said Hendry is counting on him to carry the offense. Plugging someone in a lineup on a daily basis is counting on that person to produce, not carry.

2) Everyone on this board whines except you? Got it.

 

I never said everyone except me. It seems to me you're picking a fight so I'm going to respectfully end the discussion, neither of us are wrong, you have your opinion and I have mine. We're both Cub fans, we both want whats best, lets leave it at that.

[DiamondMind]

 

DiamondMind,

 

What do you like about the Cubs' current management (from Baker and the coaches and all the way up to the top)?

 

I'm a fan of Dusty's off the field tactics, but I think he has a large part in the injury problems of Wood and Prior, and I also don't understand why every substitution has to be a double switch...obviously I don't think his on field tactics are the best. With that said, I think his players play hard for him and maybe that's all you can ask from a manager. He's not my favorite, but he beats some of the alternatives.

 

My main complaint with the Cubs organization is my lack of confidence in scouting and development. The fact that the Cubs haven't fielded a home-grown position player since the cold war says a lot to me.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

 

DiamondMind,

 

What do you like about the Cubs' current management (from Baker and the coaches and all the way up to the top)?

 

I'm a fan of Dusty's off the field tactics, but I think he has a large part in the injury problems of Wood and Prior, and I also don't understand why every substitution has to be a double switch...obviously I don't think his on field tactics are the best. With that said, I think his players play hard for him and maybe that's all you can ask from a manager. He's not my favorite, but he beats some of the alternatives.

 

My main complaint with the Cubs organization is my lack of confidence in scouting and development. The fact that the Cubs haven't fielded a home-grown position player since the cold war says a lot to me.

 

So here was an opportunity to get some groomed minor leaguers(from another system), but Hendry passed in favor of Izturis. He had good enough defense with Neifi if that is what he wanted. But, he chose another defensive MI and ignored offense which the Cubs severely lack.

 

So people are angry with Hendry.

[DiamondMind]

So here was an opportunity to get some groomed minor leaguers(from another system), but Hendry passed in favor of Izturis. He had good enough defense with Neifi if that is what he wanted. But, he chose another defensive MI and ignored offense which the Cubs severely lack.

 

So people are angry with Hendry.

 

That's my point, other than Von Joshua who do you really trust to instill into these players how to play the game the right way? Besides that, I think Hendry believes, despite this year, that this is a team built to win now, and prospects won't help achieve that goal. It may be slanted logic, but it's just my opinion of what Jim's thought process is and was.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

So here was an opportunity to get some groomed minor leaguers(from another system), but Hendry passed in favor of Izturis. He had good enough defense with Neifi if that is what he wanted. But, he chose another defensive MI and ignored offense which the Cubs severely lack.

 

So people are angry with Hendry.

 

That's my point, other than Von Joshua who do you really trust to instill into these players how to play the game the right way? Besides that, I think Hendry believes, despite this year, that this is a team built to win now, and prospects won't help achieve that goal. It may be slanted logic, but it's just my opinion of what Jim's thought process is and was.

 

And that is why people are enraged. They find it unfathomable that Hendry believes this team can win. I wonder what he sees that gives him that sense if this is the case. There are pieces(Lee, Z, Aram, Barrett) but far from enough.

[Balsa]

Nevin will clear waivers. I expect to see Micah here by the end of the year.

[NCCubFan]

I never said everyone except me.

Um, yes you did.

Secondly' date=' [b']everyone on this board whines.[/b] Just because I have a different view than you doesn't mean I'm whining - come on now.

[DiamondMind]

I never said everyone except me.

Um, yes you did.

Secondly' date=' [b']everyone on this board whines.[/b] Just because I have a different view than you doesn't mean I'm whining - come on now.

 

Well, fine, you got me. Everyone is imperfect except myself. I am god. Happy?

 

My point was that if I complain, it's due to the lack of optomism on this board in general. When other people complain, it's over the sky being blue or water being wet, whatever the current topic of the day is.

[RynoRules]

I never said everyone except me.

Um, yes you did.

Secondly' date=' [b']everyone on this board whines.[/b] Just because I have a different view than you doesn't mean I'm whining - come on now.

 

Well, fine, you got me. Everyone is imperfect except myself. I am god. Happy?

 

My point was that if I complain, it's due to the lack of optomism on this board in general. When other people complain, it's over the sky being blue or water being wet, whatever the current topic of the day is.

 

You might want to qualify your commentary in the future with, "it seems like", or, "lately".

 

BTW, who cares if Mabry plays first because we trade Nevin? Do you see this team going somewhere I do not?