Why Girardi?

[KW34]

Serious question, why are some so strongly advocating Girardi as Cubs manager? Sure the Marlins are playing pretty good baseball, but I see signs that Girardi would not be the forward thinking manager many here crave.

 

Florida has 38 sacrifice bunts good for 7th in the league. The Cubs are 6th with 42. Florida is 5th with 61 SB attempts, successful on 69%. The Cubs are 6th with 57 SB attempts, successful on 67%. Florida is 14th in walks, the Cubs are 16th. Zambrano is 3rd in baseball prospectus' pitcher abuse points. Dontrelle is 5th. The next worst from both teams is Josh Johnson at 58, but in only 11 starts. Sean Marhall checks in at 175. Virtually all of Borowski's appearances have been of the 1 inning, 3 run lead save variety or traditional closer situations. Joe's career OBP was .315 (although this really doesn't tell us much more than Joe wasn't a very good hitter himself).

 

Am I missing something here?

[Butterscup1679666578]

Serious question, why are some so strongly advocating Girardi as Cubs manager? Sure the Marlins are playing pretty good baseball, but I see signs that Girardi would not be the forward thinking manager many here crave.

 

Florida has 38 sacrifice bunts good for 7th in the league. The Cubs are 6th with 42. Florida is 5th with 61 SB attempts, successful on 69%. The Cubs are 6th with 57 SB attempts, successful on 67%. Florida is 14th in walks, the Cubs are 16th. Zambrano is 3rd in baseball prospectus' pitcher abuse points. Dontrelle is 5th. The next worst from both teams is Josh Johnson at 58, but in only 11 starts. Sean Marhall checks in at 175. Virtually all of Borowski's appearances have been of the 1 inning, 3 run lead save variety or traditional closer situations. Joe's career OBP was .315 (although this really doesn't tell us much more than Joe wasn't a very good hitter himself).

 

Am I missing something here?

 

Florida Marlins team OBP: .333

Chicago Cubs team OBP: .314

 

I'm not a big fan of Girardi either way, but I mean, he's young for a manager, he knows the game, and he seems to be a guy who has some fire and is able to get the best out of his players.

[Electron Blue]

Serious question, why are some so strongly advocating Girardi as Cubs manager? Sure the Marlins are playing pretty good baseball, but I see signs that Girardi would not be the forward thinking manager many here crave.

 

Florida has 38 sacrifice bunts good for 7th in the league. The Cubs are 6th with 42. Florida is 5th with 61 SB attempts, successful on 69%. The Cubs are 6th with 57 SB attempts, successful on 67%. Florida is 14th in walks, the Cubs are 16th. Zambrano is 3rd in baseball prospectus' pitcher abuse points. Dontrelle is 5th. The next worst from both teams is Josh Johnson at 58, but in only 11 starts. Sean Marhall checks in at 175. Virtually all of Borowski's appearances have been of the 1 inning, 3 run lead save variety or traditional closer situations. Joe's career OBP was .315 (although this really doesn't tell us much more than Joe wasn't a very good hitter himself).

 

Am I missing something here?

 

Florida Marlins team OBP: .333

Chicago Cubs team OBP: .314

 

I'm not a big fan of Girardi either way, but I mean, he's young for a manager, he knows the game, and he seems to be a guy who has some fire and is able to get the best out of his players.

 

First: the stats in the original posts aren't necessarily indicative of a good manager.

 

Second: (and maybe this is what you meant, obp is pretty interesting. Girardi has coaxed a similar/better hitting team out of less talent.

[cubfan1955]

Serious question, why are some so strongly advocating Girardi as Cubs manager? Sure the Marlins are playing pretty good baseball, but I see signs that Girardi would not be the forward thinking manager many here crave.

 

Florida has 38 sacrifice bunts good for 7th in the league. The Cubs are 6th with 42. Florida is 5th with 61 SB attempts, successful on 69%. The Cubs are 6th with 57 SB attempts, successful on 67%. Florida is 14th in walks, the Cubs are 16th. Zambrano is 3rd in baseball prospectus' pitcher abuse points. Dontrelle is 5th. The next worst from both teams is Josh Johnson at 58, but in only 11 starts. Sean Marhall checks in at 175. Virtually all of Borowski's appearances have been of the 1 inning, 3 run lead save variety or traditional closer situations. Joe's career OBP was .315 (although this really doesn't tell us much more than Joe wasn't a very good hitter himself).

 

Am I missing something here?

 

Florida Marlins team OBP: .333

Chicago Cubs team OBP: .314

 

I'm not a big fan of Girardi either way, but I mean, he's young for a manager, he knows the game, and he seems to be a guy who has some fire and is able to get the best out of his players.

 

First: the stats in the original posts aren't necessarily indicative of a good manager.

 

Second: (and maybe this is what you meant, obp is pretty interesting. Girardi has coaxed a similar/better hitting team out of less talent.

And a lot less experienced hitters.

[KW34]

Florida Marlins team OBP: .333

Chicago Cubs team OBP: .314

 

I'm not a big fan of Girardi either way, but I mean, he's young for a manager, he knows the game, and he seems to be a guy who has some fire and is able to get the best out of his players.

 

First: the stats in the original posts aren't necessarily indicative of a good manager.

 

Second: (and maybe this is what you meant, obp is pretty interesting. Girardi has coaxed a similar/better hitting team out of less talent.

And a lot less experienced hitters.

I'll give you less experienced, although Girardi really didn't have a choice. Less talent is questionable. I'll take the Cabrera at 3B, Hanley Ramirez at SS and Uggla/Walker is close at 2B. Hermida in RF, and Willingham in LF. That's 4 or 5 of 8 position players where I'd rather have Marlins. And that's right now, not future. That's pretty depressing when you think of it.

[radarluv1]

Florida Marlins team OBP: .333

Chicago Cubs team OBP: .314

 

I'm not a big fan of Girardi either way, but I mean, he's young for a manager, he knows the game, and he seems to be a guy who has some fire and is able to get the best out of his players.

 

First: the stats in the original posts aren't necessarily indicative of a good manager.

 

Second: (and maybe this is what you meant, obp is pretty interesting. Girardi has coaxed a similar/better hitting team out of less talent.

And a lot less experienced hitters.

I'll give you less experienced, although Girardi really didn't have a choice. Less talent is questionable. I'll take the Cabrera at 3B, Hanley Ramirez at SS and Uggla/Walker is close at 2B. Hermida in RF, and Willingham in LF. That's 4 or 5 of 8 position players where I'd rather have Marlins. And that's right now, not future. That's pretty depressing when you think of it.

 

i know. if both teams were going to be able to spend the same amount in the FA market this offseason, would it even be close next year? it might not even be close anyway. :x

[cheapseats]

Serious question, why are some so strongly advocating Girardi as Cubs manager? Sure the Marlins are playing pretty good baseball, but I see signs that Girardi would not be the forward thinking manager many here crave.

 

Florida has 38 sacrifice bunts good for 7th in the league. The Cubs are 6th with 42. Florida is 5th with 61 SB attempts, successful on 69%. The Cubs are 6th with 57 SB attempts, successful on 67%. Florida is 14th in walks, the Cubs are 16th. Zambrano is 3rd in baseball prospectus' pitcher abuse points. Dontrelle is 5th. The next worst from both teams is Josh Johnson at 58, but in only 11 starts. Sean Marhall checks in at 175. Virtually all of Borowski's appearances have been of the 1 inning, 3 run lead save variety or traditional closer situations. Joe's career OBP was .315 (although this really doesn't tell us much more than Joe wasn't a very good hitter himself).

 

Am I missing something here?

 

At some point a few years ago, someone at ESPN or Fox said Girardi was going to be a good manager, and everyone took it as gospel.

 

I'd love to see some team hire a manager who never played the game on a professional level. Every manager in baesball does the same things because they were taught to do the same things.

 

Inbreeding is bad.

[flynnhicks03]

I'll give you less experienced, although Girardi really didn't have a choice. Less talent is questionable. I'll take the Cabrera at 3B, Hanley Ramirez at SS and Uggla/Walker is close at 2B. Hermida in RF, and Willingham in LF. That's 4 or 5 of 8 position players where I'd rather have Marlins. And that's right now, not future. That's pretty depressing when you think of it.

 

So, what you're saying is our front office/scouting/playing development sucks ,too?