Buy or Earn a World Series?

[goonys evil twin]

Since the Yankees started their crazy spending spree, they've won exactly zero titles.

 

I'll take a World Series anyway I can get it-including if every other team simultaneously comes down with the measles.

The Yankess have always had a bigger payroll than all of the other teams. Go back and look at their teams of the 70's that they bought, mostly from the A's Charlie Finley.

 

The recent spree has been unprecedented. I know in the mid 90s they did not have the highest payroll, Baltimore did. And when the Yankees finally took over that ranking, they were only slightly ahead of the 2nd and 3rd highest payrolls. It wasn't until around 2000, when they went hard after guys like Mussian, Giambi and others, that their payroll skyrocketed past everybody else.

[bleedcubbieblue]

Since the Yankees started their crazy spending spree, they've won exactly zero titles.

 

I'll take a World Series anyway I can get it-including if every other team simultaneously comes down with the measles.

The Yankess have always had a bigger payroll than all of the other teams. Go back and look at their teams of the 70's that they bought, mostly from the A's Charlie Finley.

 

The recent spree has been unprecedented. I know in the mid 90s they did not have the highest payroll, Baltimore did. And when the Yankees finally took over that ranking, they were only slightly ahead of the 2nd and 3rd highest payrolls. It wasn't until around 2000, when they went hard after guys like Mussian, Giambi and others, that their payroll skyrocketed past everybody else.

 

While it might be unprecedented, it had to do more with giving them the best chance in the world to win more WS championships. I certainly wish the Tribune cared as much as Frankensteinbrenner did about winning, but fiscal responsibility overrules everything the Cubs do. While the Yanks might not have won a WS championship these last 6 years, they certainly have been much closer than we have ever been in those 6 years, not to mention in the past 98 years. If one gets enjoyment out of them having such a huge payroll to only come up short, good for you, but I certainly wish the Tribune handling of the Cubs and their payroll was closer to the Yanks model, than the one they currently have in place, because as you can see from the position we are in, we end up with what we have on the field. 13 winning seasons in a row speaks volumes about how they run that organization, a huge payroll is just one of the outcomes of doing this, something the Tribune never wishes to have.

 

BCB

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Since the Yankees started their crazy spending spree, they've won exactly zero titles.

 

I'll take a World Series anyway I can get it-including if every other team simultaneously comes down with the measles.

The Yankess have always had a bigger payroll than all of the other teams. Go back and look at their teams of the 70's that they bought, mostly from the A's Charlie Finley.

 

The recent spree has been unprecedented. I know in the mid 90s they did not have the highest payroll, Baltimore did. And when the Yankees finally took over that ranking, they were only slightly ahead of the 2nd and 3rd highest payrolls. It wasn't until around 2000, when they went hard after guys like Mussian, Giambi and others, that their payroll skyrocketed past everybody else.

 

They led the league in payroll for 4/10 years in the 90's, but as goony pointed out, they were only slightly ahead of the other teams (2-7M). The years they didn't lead:

98 - 2nd

95 - 2nd

93 - 3rd

92 - 6th

91 - 8th

90 - 5th

 

Interesting side note: The 1988 Yankees led the league with a payroll of 18.9M. The White Sox had the lowest at 5.9M. Oh, how times have changed.

[Caryatid]

Since the Yankees started their crazy spending spree, they've won exactly zero titles.

 

I'll take a World Series anyway I can get it-including if every other team simultaneously comes down with the measles.

The Yankess have always had a bigger payroll than all of the other teams. Go back and look at their teams of the 70's that they bought, mostly from the A's Charlie Finley.

 

The recent spree has been unprecedented. I know in the mid 90s they did not have the highest payroll, Baltimore did. And when the Yankees finally took over that ranking, they were only slightly ahead of the 2nd and 3rd highest payrolls. It wasn't until around 2000, when they went hard after guys like Mussian, Giambi and others, that their payroll skyrocketed past everybody else.

 

While it might be unprecedented, it had to do more with giving them the best chance in the world to win more WS championships. I certainly wish the Tribune cared as much as Frankensteinbrenner did about winning, but fiscal responsibility overrules everything the Cubs do. While the Yanks might not have won a WS championship these last 6 years, they certainly have been much closer than we have ever been in those 6 years, not to mention in the past 98 years. If one gets enjoyment out of them having such a huge payroll to only come up short, good for you, but I certainly wish the Tribune handling of the Cubs and their payroll was closer to the Yanks model, than the one they currently have in place, because as you can see from the position we are in, we end up with what we have on the field. 13 winning seasons in a row speaks volumes about how they run that organization, a huge payroll is just one of the outcomes of doing this, something the Tribune never wishes to have.

 

BCB

 

I think my mantra from now on will be "I'd rather have a smart GM than a rich owner."

[bleedcubbieblue]

Since the Yankees started their crazy spending spree, they've won exactly zero titles.

 

I'll take a World Series anyway I can get it-including if every other team simultaneously comes down with the measles.

The Yankess have always had a bigger payroll than all of the other teams. Go back and look at their teams of the 70's that they bought, mostly from the A's Charlie Finley.

 

The recent spree has been unprecedented. I know in the mid 90s they did not have the highest payroll, Baltimore did. And when the Yankees finally took over that ranking, they were only slightly ahead of the 2nd and 3rd highest payrolls. It wasn't until around 2000, when they went hard after guys like Mussian, Giambi and others, that their payroll skyrocketed past everybody else.

 

While it might be unprecedented, it had to do more with giving them the best chance in the world to win more WS championships. I certainly wish the Tribune cared as much as Frankensteinbrenner did about winning, but fiscal responsibility overrules everything the Cubs do. While the Yanks might not have won a WS championship these last 6 years, they certainly have been much closer than we have ever been in those 6 years, not to mention in the past 98 years. If one gets enjoyment out of them having such a huge payroll to only come up short, good for you, but I certainly wish the Tribune handling of the Cubs and their payroll was closer to the Yanks model, than the one they currently have in place, because as you can see from the position we are in, we end up with what we have on the field. 13 winning seasons in a row speaks volumes about how they run that organization, a huge payroll is just one of the outcomes of doing this, something the Tribune never wishes to have.

 

BCB

 

I think my mantra from now on will be "I'd rather have a smart GM than a rich owner."

 

I guess Cashman may be disproving this argument, but at least with the Tribune's announcement today, it is something we have to hope for, but after the last 25 years of their ownership, they have not had one since Dallas Green, and I don't foresee this changing anytime soon. Zero confidence in them identifying the right man for the job.

 

BCB

[Chocolate Milk]

Why would anyone care if we won it with a 200m dollar payroll? It's not like it's cheating. Edited May 31, 2006 by Chocolate Milk

[cubfan1955]

Why would anyone care if we won it with a 200 dollar payroll. It's not like it's cheating.

Lets see, $200 / 25 players = $8 per year per player. Not even Neifi would go for that. :lol:

[Chocolate Milk]

Why would anyone care if we won it with a 200 dollar payroll. It's not like it's cheating.

Lets see, $200 / 25 players = $8 per year per player. Not even Neifi would go for that. :lol:

 

What I'm trying to say, and obviously failing, is that winning is winning. There is no inherent honor for winning and spending less.

[cubweiser03]

Why would anyone care if we won it with a 200m dollar payroll? It's not like it's cheating.

 

Im not opposed to that either. Buy, Earn, Steal. Whatever.

[cbbryan]

Why would anyone care if we won it with a 200m dollar payroll? It's not like it's cheating.

 

Im not opposed to that either. Buy, Earn, Steal. Whatever.

 

Hire Barry Bonds as the trainer.............. juice everyone! Better eye sight, more power.............

 

We're on to something!

[soccer10k]

Why would anyone care if we won it with a 200 dollar payroll. It's not like it's cheating.

 

Agreed. I could care less how the Cubs win it. At this point, all I want is a World Series title. It's withing the rules of baseball to spend 200 million so if that's what it takes to win, then so be it.

 

But if you told me that the Cubs were going to win a World Series whether they spent 50 million or 200 million, I would choose to spend 50 million.

 

Like somebody else said, beggars can't be choosers.

[soccer10k]

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Who cares what it costs?

 

Preach Pedro.