The Non-Accountability Continues

[bring stone back]

So, Jones sits for a game because he got picked off 2nd base. His replacement is a guy who can't even get on base. Which player is worse or less deserving of playing time? I'll stick with Jacque.

 

Aramis is off to an extremely slow start. Neifi is backup #1 at 3B. I'll take my chance that Aramis turns it around.

 

The accountability for what's wrong with this team falls solely on the group responsible for putting it together.

 

Got picked not once, not twice, but three times. And at the time, although he was coming around, was not really a force in the lineup and also was during that stretch the Cubs faced a gaggle of lefthanders so I think the benching could have worked out ok (Hairston wouldn't have killed them for one game, plus they suck anyway and would probably lose with or without him)

 

My only point is, this team sucks enough with the group that "deserves" to start. The last thing we need is to make an already weak lineup even weaker. If Jones can get a base hit that potentially could drive a runner home and then get picked off 2nd, I'll take that over an 0-fer from Bynum or Hairston. Both outcomes suck, I'm just going with the one that sucks slightly less.

 

I agree with that 100%.

[badgercub]

In your opinion, what would constitute no accountability? Should they bench Jacque Jones for a week next time he makes a base-running error? Should the Cubs have benched bench Pierre, Ramirez and Zambrano for slow starts?

 

The Baker situation will take care of itself. If they manage to rebound this year and make a run, he'll be back. If not, he won't. That simple. To me, that's accountability. Firing Baker tomorrow does absolutely nothing. If you make a change, do it for the right reasons, not just for the sake of making a change.

 

I think you assume to much with the Baker situation. All indications are from what we read in the newspapers, that Hendry is just waiting for the right opportunity to give Baker an extension. 4 wins in 19 games is apparently good enough.

 

Who exactly has been held accountable so far? The Cubs are the 6th worst team in the majors. Other than a couple of bullpen guys being sent down, we have the same team that we started with. The players haven't been held responsible. Baker hasn't been held responsible. Hendry hasn't been held responsible. MacPhail hasn't been held responsible. And the Tribune obviously isn't being held responsible. Where exactly is someone being held accountable?

 

Accountablility would be someone losing their job. In every normal workplace, if you are unable to perform your job adequately, someone who CAN do the job will be asked to step in and do it. That doesn't appear to be the case with the Cubs. People that are clearly unable to do the job are being allowed to continue to try and try and try, with no change in results. That's no accountability.

 

Do they have someone right now who they think CAN do the job? Obviously not. It's not like they're holding on to Baker and Hendry for the hell of it or they're nice guys.

 

Since the Tribune owns the Cubs, I think they're clear of accountability. I don't care what the fans think they deserve on the field, it's up to them to determine what they spend and how they spend it.

 

MacPhail and Hendry aren't perfect and have made mistakes, but have also done plenty of positives, too. The bullpen additions have been very good and Jones has been pretty good, but Pierre has struggled. They tried to address or weaknesses and some have worked while others haven't. It doesn't help that right now they have about $30 million worth of payroll on the DL or not healthy.

 

As I said, regarding Baker, the wins and losses will hold his fate. If they rebound this year and compete, he'll probably be back. If not, he won't.

 

What do you want? Posters here complain about this guy sucks and that guy sucks. People make it sound so easy....I know, let's go get Cabrera to play left and Abreu to play right. Sure....okay.

 

Are you for real? So, what should be done? Just go on and keep using the same old sorry excuses? I know there are a lot of injuries, and that is not Dusty's fault, but that still shouldn't let him skate for the poor fundamentals this team has displayed and some of his bonehead lineups. Hendry most definitely should be held accountable for assembling yet another team that was going to rely on oft injured players to miraculously make it through an entire season (not talking about Lee) with no back up plan (Im sorry, the signing of Neifi, Rusch, Mabry, et al.... does not constitute a plan) You make it seem like people just started criticising management becasue of the losing streak when in fact some of these issues have been raised on this message board dating back to 2003. Even when the Cubs were winning people realized Dusty was incompetent.

[halplm]

Actually, Wood's injury IS arguably Dusty's fault, or collectively Dusty and Hendry. He should have been shut down a month earlier than he was last year, and we can't even imagine what that would have meant to his injury... but it certainly would have started his rehab a month earlier...

[badgercub]

Actually, Wood's injury IS arguably Dusty's fault, or collectively Dusty and Hendry. He should have been shut down a month earlier than he was last year, and we can't even imagine what that would have meant to his injury... but it certainly would have started his rehab a month earlier...

 

I think you can even date some of the abuse back to 2003. Dusty overused him horribly, left him in games to throw well in excess of 100 pitches in games where they were ahead by 5 or 6 runs. Same goes for Prior.

[beer man]

I am not blaming everything on Dusty, as there are THREE blind mice running the Cubs, not just one.

 

To even consider reupping the blind man "managing" the team after the results of the last two plus seasons in astounding.

 

Evidently, a fan cannot recognize problems with the team, it's management, and it's reactions, because we are not affiliated with the Cubs or with major league baseball.

 

You go on supporting the three blind mice, and buy into the excuses, but I can't do that.

 

This is a disaster and an embarrasement, and NO one is taking ANY blame whatsoever.

 

I have listened to these same excuses, seen the same fundamentally poor play, excrusiating lineup decisions, and poor player personnel moves for the last three years.

 

Dusty lets his players off the hook.

Hendry lets Dusty off the Hook

MacPhail lets Hendry off the hook.

 

Quite the organization.

[badgercub]

I am not blaming everything on Dusty, as there are THREE blind mice running the Cubs, not just one.

 

To even consider reupping the blind man "managing" the team after the results of the last two plus seasons in astounding.

 

Evidently, a fan cannot recognize problems with the team, it's management, and it's reactions, because we are not affiliated with the Cubs or with major league baseball.

 

You go on supporting the three blind mice, and buy into the excuses, but I can't do that.

 

This is a disaster and an embarrasement, and NO one is taking ANY blame whatsoever.

 

I have listened to these same excuses, seen the same fundamentally poor play, excrusiating lineup decisions, and poor player personnel moves for the last three years.

 

Dusty lets his players off the hook.

Hendry lets Dusty off the Hook

MacPhail lets Hendry off the hook.

 

Quite the organization.

 

So far, the only guy that has stepped up and said he is not getting the job done is Juan Pierre. You gotta give him credit for at least not making any excuses.

[bring stone back]

In your opinion, what would constitute no accountability? Should they bench Jacque Jones for a week next time he makes a base-running error? Should the Cubs have benched bench Pierre, Ramirez and Zambrano for slow starts?

 

The Baker situation will take care of itself. If they manage to rebound this year and make a run, he'll be back. If not, he won't. That simple. To me, that's accountability. Firing Baker tomorrow does absolutely nothing. If you make a change, do it for the right reasons, not just for the sake of making a change.

 

I think you assume to much with the Baker situation. All indications are from what we read in the newspapers, that Hendry is just waiting for the right opportunity to give Baker an extension. 4 wins in 19 games is apparently good enough.

 

Who exactly has been held accountable so far? The Cubs are the 6th worst team in the majors. Other than a couple of bullpen guys being sent down, we have the same team that we started with. The players haven't been held responsible. Baker hasn't been held responsible. Hendry hasn't been held responsible. MacPhail hasn't been held responsible. And the Tribune obviously isn't being held responsible. Where exactly is someone being held accountable?

 

Accountablility would be someone losing their job. In every normal workplace, if you are unable to perform your job adequately, someone who CAN do the job will be asked to step in and do it. That doesn't appear to be the case with the Cubs. People that are clearly unable to do the job are being allowed to continue to try and try and try, with no change in results. That's no accountability.

 

Do they have someone right now who they think CAN do the job? Obviously not. It's not like they're holding on to Baker and Hendry for the hell of it or they're nice guys.

 

Since the Tribune owns the Cubs, I think they're clear of accountability. I don't care what the fans think they deserve on the field, it's up to them to determine what they spend and how they spend it.

 

MacPhail and Hendry aren't perfect and have made mistakes, but have also done plenty of positives, too. The bullpen additions have been very good and Jones has been pretty good, but Pierre has struggled. They tried to address or weaknesses and some have worked while others haven't. It doesn't help that right now they have about $30 million worth of payroll on the DL or not healthy.

 

As I said, regarding Baker, the wins and losses will hold his fate. If they rebound this year and compete, he'll probably be back. If not, he won't.

 

What do you want? Posters here complain about this guy sucks and that guy sucks. People make it sound so easy....I know, let's go get Cabrera to play left and Abreu to play right. Sure....okay.

 

Are you for real? So, what should be done? Just go on and keep using the same old sorry excuses? I know there are a lot of injuries, and that is not Dusty's fault, but that still shouldn't let him skate for the poor fundamentals this team has displayed and some of his bonehead lineups. Hendry most definitely should be held accountable for assembling yet another team that was going to rely on oft injured players to miraculously make it through an entire season (not talking about Lee) with no back up plan (Im sorry, the signing of Neifi, Rusch, Mabry, et al.... does not constitute a plan) You make it seem like people just started criticising management becasue of the losing streak when in fact some of these issues have been raised on this message board dating back to 2003. Even when the Cubs were winning people realized Dusty was incompetent.

 

My sincerest apologies...I wasn't on this board in 2003. I didn't realize one year after their postseason run everyone knew he was incompetent.

 

The length of the Rusch and Neifi signing was dumb, but I thought signing both was fine. I personally liked the Mabry signing.

 

Should we fire Hendry, MacPhail and Baker tomorrow? Will that make Jones instantly a better base-runner? Will that make Pierre get on base more often and Wood and Prior healthy?

[CubinNY]

I am not blaming everything on Dusty, as there are THREE blind mice running the Cubs, not just one.

 

To even consider reupping the blind man "managing" the team after the results of the last two plus seasons in astounding.

 

Evidently, a fan cannot recognize problems with the team, it's management, and it's reactions, because we are not affiliated with the Cubs or with major league baseball.

 

You go on supporting the three blind mice, and buy into the excuses, but I can't do that.

 

This is a disaster and an embarrasement, and NO one is taking ANY blame whatsoever.

 

I have listened to these same excuses, seen the same fundamentally poor play, excrusiating lineup decisions, and poor player personnel moves for the last three years.

 

Dusty lets his players off the hook.

Hendry lets Dusty off the Hook

MacPhail lets Hendry off the hook.

 

Quite the organization.

 

So far, the only guy that has stepped up and said he is not getting the job done is Juan Pierre. You gotta give him credit for at least not making any excuses.

 

I don't think there is a person who posts here that was more against getting Pierre then me.

 

I hate that he is performing below career norms, but I have to admit I kind of like the Slapmister. He really hasn't made any excuses at all and has said all the correct things. He's grown on me (no pun intended). I wish he were a better player though.

[badgercub]

Also, I don't think holding someone accountable necessarily means benching them for a month, but when Jones continually makes baserunning mistakes you can surely yank him out for the remainder of the game and sit him for the next one. That would be holding him accountable, at least on Dusty's part. Holding Hendry accountable for his signing is another thing......

 

Complain about Hendry's signings, I think that's reasonable, but that's the catch-22 about being the GM for the Cubs and working in Chicago.

 

We all want this to turn around overnight. Jones and Giles were the two best right fielders in free agency. No way, Giles was leaving SD, so Hendry was left with one option. Sign Jones or be crucified for "not addressing right field."

 

If you're a team who desperately needs a closer, but you don't think anyone available are that impressive or they're asking for too much money and decide to do nothing, don't you think the fans would jump on you if you decided to sign nobody? Damned if you do...damned if you don't.

 

But that was the problem, Hendry bid against himself for Jones. If he would have signed Jones to a 1 year deal for 3-4 million I think people would have still been disappointed but when he overpays and locks the guy up for 3 years it is asinine. And sure there were only 2 RF on the FA market but instead of overpaying with 3 young pitchers for Juan Pierre, maybe he should have used those assets to get a productive RF and I believe with that amount of pitching Hendry could have gotten a deal done for somebody. Instead he overpaid in dollars and prospects for two guys that have showed a downward trend over the last couple of years. These are arguments that have been made since the signing, not in hindsight.

[Banedon]

My sincerest apologies...I wasn't on this board in 2003. I didn't realize one year after their postseason run everyone knew he was incompetent.

 

Actually, there were a lot of people that didn't want him to begin with truth be told. I'll admit I was ok with it at the time, but there are certainly many on here that can claim they were against the hiring before, not after the fact.

 

Should we fire Hendry, MacPhail and Baker tomorrow? Will that make Jones instantly a better base-runner? Will that make Pierre get on base more often and Wood and Prior healthy?

 

Come on. No one is arguing that. No one. We want them fired because we don't think anyone, including Baker, can get this team to win this year. It's a crappy team built poorly and led poorly. We want them fired so we can win long term, not short term.

[badgercub]

 

My sincerest apologies...I wasn't on this board in 2003. I didn't realize one year after their postseason run everyone knew he was incompetent.

 

The length of the Rusch and Neifi signing was dumb, but I thought signing both was fine. I personally liked the Mabry signing.

 

Should we fire Hendry, MacPhail and Baker tomorrow? Will that make Jones instantly a better base-runner? Will that make Pierre get on base more often and Wood and Prior healthy?

 

It was actually before the post season run that people knew he was incompetent. Their firings will not make Jones instantly better, but it will bode well for the franchise the sooner these guys are shown the door. The Cubs will not win a W.S. with the current regime in place. I give them credit for taking the team to the next level, but the organization as a whole seems to be taking a step backward with these guys at the helm and the sooner they are gone the better. Hendry just got his extension so we know he is not going anywhere and MacPhail is also secure. It has to start with Dusty as his contract is up at the end of the year, that is the nature of managing in the big leagues when things go bad it is usually the manager that is the first to go and that is why these guys get paid so much money.

[bring stone back]

Also, I don't think holding someone accountable necessarily means benching them for a month, but when Jones continually makes baserunning mistakes you can surely yank him out for the remainder of the game and sit him for the next one. That would be holding him accountable, at least on Dusty's part. Holding Hendry accountable for his signing is another thing......

 

Complain about Hendry's signings, I think that's reasonable, but that's the catch-22 about being the GM for the Cubs and working in Chicago.

 

We all want this to turn around overnight. Jones and Giles were the two best right fielders in free agency. No way, Giles was leaving SD, so Hendry was left with one option. Sign Jones or be crucified for "not addressing right field."

 

If you're a team who desperately needs a closer, but you don't think anyone available are that impressive or they're asking for too much money and decide to do nothing, don't you think the fans would jump on you if you decided to sign nobody? Damned if you do...damned if you don't.

 

But that was the problem, Hendry bid against himself for Jones. If he would have signed Jones to a 1 year deal for 3-4 million I think people would have still been disappointed but when he overpays and locks the guy up for 3 years it is asinine. And sure there were only 2 RF on the FA market but instead of overpaying with 3 young pitchers for Juan Pierre, maybe he should have used those assets to get a productive RF and I believe with that amount of pitching Hendry could have gotten a deal done for somebody. Instead he overpaid in dollars and prospects for two guys that have showed a downward trend over the last couple of years. These are arguments that have been made since the signing, not in hindsight.

 

There is absolutely no way we get Jones for a 1 year deal worth $3-4 million. None. Let's say hypothetically we do use the 3 pitchers we dealt for Pierre to get a right fielder, who starts in center then....Hairston?

 

I'm guessing they signed Jones to that deal out of necessity. They didn't feel Pie was ready or Hairston was good enough to start in center and a lead-off center fielder was top priority (with the bullpen). Hindsight is 20-20 but I felt last year it was a mistake to get rid of Patterson, but we did which left us extremely vulnerable and desperate for a right and center fielder both.

 

Often times decisions out of necessity and desperation don't work out too well.

[beer_man]

From one of the three blind mice - Jim Hendry

 

“Under the circumstances we’re in and with the people out there, I think it’s unfair to be critical of the manager over what’s happened the last couple weeks, Hendry said. “Dusty and (my) conversations, obviously, should remain private. And he understands that the process, how I’m going to do it, and he doesn’t have an issue with it. If he doesn’t have an issue with it now, I don’t see why anybody else would.

 

“When you’ve gotten beat the way we have the last couple weeks, I don’t think it’s something (where) you want to lump all the blame on the manager.”

 

When is anyone in the Cub organization going to take any responisibility for the putrid product put on the field?

 

You can't blame Dusty? Really?

 

It must be the writer's fault the Cub's don't hustle. Even Ken Harreslon pointed out that difference between the two teams during the broadcast on Saturday. Certainly the manager is not responsible for that.

 

It is the fan's fault we can't hit the cutoff man on throws from the outfield. At home, the fans in the bleachers should be yelling what base or what player the ball should be thrown to (or in Jone's case, what part of the ground should be thrown to)

 

The Cub nation of bloggers are responsible for all the baserunning mistakes, as well as the poor lineup construction. Please start suggesting starting lineups a day in advance, as Dusty needs some time to digest all this new fangled information you guys can find.

 

Only the Cubs can find a way to turn the (small) positive of a win over the Sox into yet another embarressment as we continue to blindly say that absolutely nothing is wrong with this putrid team and its management.

 

Nope, not their fault. Not at all.

 

Not baseball related but I am going to be really confused every time I see your name...

[bring stone back]

My sincerest apologies...I wasn't on this board in 2003. I didn't realize one year after their postseason run everyone knew he was incompetent.

 

Actually, there were a lot of people that didn't want him to begin with truth be told. I'll admit I was ok with it at the time, but there are certainly many on here that can claim they were against the hiring before, not after the fact.

 

Should we fire Hendry, MacPhail and Baker tomorrow? Will that make Jones instantly a better base-runner? Will that make Pierre get on base more often and Wood and Prior healthy?

 

Come on. No one is arguing that. No one. We want them fired because we don't think anyone, including Baker, can get this team to win this year. It's a crappy team built poorly and led poorly. We want them fired so we can win long term, not short term.

 

And I think you'll get that at the END of the year. If Baker doesn't win this year, he's gone. There is no way this team finishes with 75 wins or so and Baker comes back.

 

Why fire him now is my question. Give the guy a shot to get us out of this hole. If he doesn't....he's gone.

[goonys evil twin]

And I think you'll get that at the END of the year. If Baker doesn't win this year, he's gone. There is no way this team finishes with 75 wins or so and Baker comes back.

 

Why fire him now is my question. Give the guy a shot to get us out of this hole. If he doesn't....he's gone.

 

He had his chance. He had it in 2003, when the team melted down. He had it in 2004 when the team melted down. He had it in 2005 when the team stunk. He had it 3 weeks ago when the team stunk. Why not fire him now? He's a bad manager, has been for a while.

 

You fire him now because the team is playing like crap and Dusty is a bad manager. What other reason do you need?

[CubinNY]

There is absolutely no way we get Jones for a 1 year deal worth $3-4 million.

 

I don't think you know that. Be that as it may, if it were true then the Cubs shouldn't have signed him. I don't think anyone but Hendry would have given him that contract. Frankly, I'd rather just Keep Burnitz around for one year.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

And I think you'll get that at the END of the year. If Baker doesn't win this year, he's gone. There is no way this team finishes with 75 wins or so and Baker comes back.

 

Why fire him now is my question. Give the guy a shot to get us out of this hole. If he doesn't....he's gone.

 

I don't buy that 75 wins means he's gone. There has already been a lot of speculation that he will be extendended whenever this free-fall ends. With Wood, Prior, and Lee all missing chunks of time, he has the now built-in "injuries did us in" excuse.

[bring stone back]

And I think you'll get that at the END of the year. If Baker doesn't win this year, he's gone. There is no way this team finishes with 75 wins or so and Baker comes back.

 

Why fire him now is my question. Give the guy a shot to get us out of this hole. If he doesn't....he's gone.

 

He had his chance. He had it in 2003, when the team melted down. He had it in 2004 when the team melted down. He had it in 2005 when the team stunk. He had it 3 weeks ago when the team stunk. Why not fire him now? He's a bad manager, has been for a while.

 

You fire him now because the team is playing like crap and Dusty is a bad manager. What other reason do you need?

 

Replace him with who then? If you have a better candidate the Cubs could get tomorrow, I'm all ears.

 

For instance, if you would have fired Baker last year before the Marlins started talking to Girardi, I would have loved to see that. Say you get rid of Baker because it wasn't working and Girardi was your guy and you took it. Fine...but don't just fire someone and then bring in someone worse to do a job to please the complaining fans or media.

[bring stone back]

There is absolutely no way we get Jones for a 1 year deal worth $3-4 million.

 

I don't think you know that. Be that as it may, if it were true then the Cubs shouldn't have signed him. I don't think anyone but Hendry would have given him that contract. Frankly, I'd rather just Keep Burnitz around for one year.

 

You don't think St. Louis for one would take Jacque Jones over Encarnacion? Please. If we would have offered 1 year for $3-4 million he would have laughed at that offer and other teams would have grossly outbid that.

[CubinNY]

Replace him with who then? If you have a better candidate the Cubs could get tomorrow, I'm all ears.

 

For instance, if you would have fired Baker last year before the Marlins started talking to Girardi, I would have loved to see that. Say you get rid of Baker because it wasn't working and Girardi was your guy and you took it. Fine...but don't just fire someone and then bring in someone worse to do a job to please the complaining fans or media.

 

Larry Deriker

Davy Johnson

Bobby Valentine

Jim Riggleman

 

But really we don't have to have the answers, we're fans. Hendry, MacPhail, and Dusty have to have the answers, that their job.

[CubinNY]

There is absolutely no way we get Jones for a 1 year deal worth $3-4 million.

 

I don't think you know that. Be that as it may, if it were true then the Cubs shouldn't have signed him. I don't think anyone but Hendry would have given him that contract. Frankly, I'd rather just Keep Burnitz around for one year.

 

You don't think St. Louis for one would take Jacque Jones over Encarnacion? Please. If we would have offered 1 year for $3-4 million he would have laughed at that offer and other teams would have grossly outbid that.

 

Then they can have him. But wasn't Juan signed before jacque?

[badgercub]

And I think you'll get that at the END of the year. If Baker doesn't win this year, he's gone. There is no way this team finishes with 75 wins or so and Baker comes back.

 

Why fire him now is my question. Give the guy a shot to get us out of this hole. If he doesn't....he's gone.

 

He had his chance. He had it in 2003, when the team melted down. He had it in 2004 when the team melted down. He had it in 2005 when the team stunk. He had it 3 weeks ago when the team stunk. Why not fire him now? He's a bad manager, has been for a while.

 

You fire him now because the team is playing like crap and Dusty is a bad manager. What other reason do you need?

 

Replace him with who then? If you have a better candidate the Cubs could get tomorrow, I'm all ears.

 

For instance, if you would have fired Baker last year before the Marlins started talking to Girardi, I would have loved to see that. Say you get rid of Baker because it wasn't working and Girardi was your guy and you took it. Fine...but don't just fire someone and then bring in someone worse to do a job to please the complaining fans or media.

 

It all goes to accountability. So if you sucked at your job and continually mismanaged those around you would your bosses say, well, because we have to pay you for the rest of the year, even though you are not providing results, we'll keep you around. The Cubs don't owe Dusty a thing (except the cash to buy out the rest of his contract, yet another example of Hendry bidding against himself and overpaying). They paid him well and now it is time to say good bye. Bring in an interim manager now and start targeting a manager for next year if you can't find a suitable candidate now.

[bring stone back]

And I think you'll get that at the END of the year. If Baker doesn't win this year, he's gone. There is no way this team finishes with 75 wins or so and Baker comes back.

 

Why fire him now is my question. Give the guy a shot to get us out of this hole. If he doesn't....he's gone.

 

He had his chance. He had it in 2003, when the team melted down. He had it in 2004 when the team melted down. He had it in 2005 when the team stunk. He had it 3 weeks ago when the team stunk. Why not fire him now? He's a bad manager, has been for a while.

 

You fire him now because the team is playing like crap and Dusty is a bad manager. What other reason do you need?

 

Replace him with who then? If you have a better candidate the Cubs could get tomorrow, I'm all ears.

 

For instance, if you would have fired Baker last year before the Marlins started talking to Girardi, I would have loved to see that. Say you get rid of Baker because it wasn't working and Girardi was your guy and you took it. Fine...but don't just fire someone and then bring in someone worse to do a job to please the complaining fans or media.

 

Larry Deriker

Davy Johnson

Bobby Valentine

Jim Riggleman

 

But really we don't have to have the answers, we're fans. Hendry, MacPhail, and Dusty have to have the answers, that their job.

 

Please tell me Derker and Riggleman are jokes....Davey Johnson and Bobby Valentine I could at least entertain, but the other two?

 

I'd rather go through Kimm disaster after Baylor was fired to see Derker or Riggleman.

[badgercub]

There is absolutely no way we get Jones for a 1 year deal worth $3-4 million.

 

I don't think you know that. Be that as it may, if it were true then the Cubs shouldn't have signed him. I don't think anyone but Hendry would have given him that contract. Frankly, I'd rather just Keep Burnitz around for one year.

 

You don't think St. Louis for one would take Jacque Jones over Encarnacion? Please. If we would have offered 1 year for $3-4 million he would have laughed at that offer and other teams would have grossly outbid that.

 

Then they can have him. But wasn't Juan signed before jacque?

 

From all reports, the only other team interested in Jones was the KC Royals and they surely offered nothing near what Hendry did.

[Banedon]

I'd rather go through Kimm disaster after Baylor was fired to see Derker or Riggleman.

 

Dierker got the Astros to the playoffs every year that he was manager. Riggleman got a horrible Cubs team to a wild card berth.