Rusch, Williams, Hill & Guzman

[Shavo]

18-6 2.43 1.103

 

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[srbin84]

And the worst part is, I'm the only one with facts on my side. The opposition who likes Prior and wants to keep him just has gut feelings and such to go on.

 

Almost ironic given that you're the one that doesn't appear to know what a fact is. After all, you're the one that for about two pages insisted that Prior having gone on the DL in previous years meant it was a fact that he would do likewise in future years. But, like I said, almost. Because for it to be actually ironic you don't have any facts on your side. And you don't.

 

He's been hurt 5 out of 5 seasons and his numbers in his last two years are far worse than his numbers in his first two years. He hasn't played this year yet. Those are facts.

[Diffusion]

And the worst part is, I'm the only one with facts on my side. The opposition who likes Prior and wants to keep him just has gut feelings and such to go on.

 

Almost ironic given that you're the one that doesn't appear to know what a fact is. After all, you're the one that for about two pages insisted that Prior having gone on the DL in previous years meant it was a fact that he would do likewise in future years. But, like I said, almost. Because for it to be actually ironic you don't have any facts on your side. And you don't.

 

He's been hurt 5 out of 5 seasons and his numbers in his last two years are far worse than his numbers in his first two years. He hasn't played this year yet. Those are facts.

 

And in what way are those facts factually pertinent to discussion as to whether or not Prior will go on the DL next year?

 

They're not.

[srbin84]

And the worst part is, I'm the only one with facts on my side. The opposition who likes Prior and wants to keep him just has gut feelings and such to go on.

 

Almost ironic given that you're the one that doesn't appear to know what a fact is. After all, you're the one that for about two pages insisted that Prior having gone on the DL in previous years meant it was a fact that he would do likewise in future years. But, like I said, almost. Because for it to be actually ironic you don't have any facts on your side. And you don't.

 

He's been hurt 5 out of 5 seasons and his numbers in his last two years are far worse than his numbers in his first two years. He hasn't played this year yet. Those are facts.

 

And in what way are those facts factually pertinent to discussion as to whether or not Prior will go on the DL next year?

 

They're not.

 

Correct, and the reason is that wasn't the discussion.

[Diffusion]

And the worst part is, I'm the only one with facts on my side. The opposition who likes Prior and wants to keep him just has gut feelings and such to go on.

 

Almost ironic given that you're the one that doesn't appear to know what a fact is. After all, you're the one that for about two pages insisted that Prior having gone on the DL in previous years meant it was a fact that he would do likewise in future years. But, like I said, almost. Because for it to be actually ironic you don't have any facts on your side. And you don't.

 

He's been hurt 5 out of 5 seasons and his numbers in his last two years are far worse than his numbers in his first two years. He hasn't played this year yet. Those are facts.

 

And in what way are those facts factually pertinent to discussion as to whether or not Prior will go on the DL next year?

 

They're not.

 

Correct, and the reason is that wasn't the discussion.

 

Erm, it wasn't?

 

We were talking about whether Prior would go on the DL next year, and you said you were the one with the facts on your side.

 

Just how short term is your memory?

 

You can't be serious. When something keeps happening, it's a trend. Until the trend ends, it's most likely to continue. I never friggin' guaranteed anything. Stop letting your bias toward Prior because you like him as a pitcher or he signed an autograph or had a great 03 get in the way of your view of reality. Until he goes a whole year without going on the DL, we should expect him to. It's not absolute, but until something different happens, it's very likely to happen.

 

Why don't you quit while you're behind. Each post you make only makes things look worse for you.

 

And the worst part is, I'm the only one with facts on my side.

[srbin84]

And the worst part is, I'm the only one with facts on my side. The opposition who likes Prior and wants to keep him just has gut feelings and such to go on.

 

Almost ironic given that you're the one that doesn't appear to know what a fact is. After all, you're the one that for about two pages insisted that Prior having gone on the DL in previous years meant it was a fact that he would do likewise in future years. But, like I said, almost. Because for it to be actually ironic you don't have any facts on your side. And you don't.

 

He's been hurt 5 out of 5 seasons and his numbers in his last two years are far worse than his numbers in his first two years. He hasn't played this year yet. Those are facts.

 

And in what way are those facts factually pertinent to discussion as to whether or not Prior will go on the DL next year?

 

They're not.

 

Correct, and the reason is that wasn't the discussion.

 

Erm, it wasn't?

 

We were talking about whether Prior would go on the DL next year, and you said you were the one with the facts on your side.

 

Just how short term is your memory?

 

You can't be serious. When something keeps happening, it's a trend. Until the trend ends, it's most likely to continue. I never friggin' guaranteed anything. Stop letting your bias toward Prior because you like him as a pitcher or he signed an autograph or had a great 03 get in the way of your view of reality. Until he goes a whole year without going on the DL, we should expect him to. It's not absolute, but until something different happens, it's very likely to happen.

 

Why don't you quit while you're behind. Each post you make only makes things look worse for you.

 

And the worst part is, I'm the only one with facts on my side.

 

Actually, we were talking about how Prior gets hurt all of the time and that causes bad players to play in his place. I reiterated that we should have traded Prior before and that we would have been better off if we had.

 

At this point, you singled out something I said and started an argument over semantics.

[Diffusion]

And the worst part is, I'm the only one with facts on my side. The opposition who likes Prior and wants to keep him just has gut feelings and such to go on.

 

Almost ironic given that you're the one that doesn't appear to know what a fact is. After all, you're the one that for about two pages insisted that Prior having gone on the DL in previous years meant it was a fact that he would do likewise in future years. But, like I said, almost. Because for it to be actually ironic you don't have any facts on your side. And you don't.

 

He's been hurt 5 out of 5 seasons and his numbers in his last two years are far worse than his numbers in his first two years. He hasn't played this year yet. Those are facts.

 

And in what way are those facts factually pertinent to discussion as to whether or not Prior will go on the DL next year?

 

They're not.

 

Correct, and the reason is that wasn't the discussion.

 

Erm, it wasn't?

 

We were talking about whether Prior would go on the DL next year, and you said you were the one with the facts on your side.

 

Just how short term is your memory?

 

You can't be serious. When something keeps happening, it's a trend. Until the trend ends, it's most likely to continue. I never friggin' guaranteed anything. Stop letting your bias toward Prior because you like him as a pitcher or he signed an autograph or had a great 03 get in the way of your view of reality. Until he goes a whole year without going on the DL, we should expect him to. It's not absolute, but until something different happens, it's very likely to happen.

 

Why don't you quit while you're behind. Each post you make only makes things look worse for you.

 

And the worst part is, I'm the only one with facts on my side.

 

Actually, we were talking about how Prior gets hurt all of the time and that causes bad players to play in his place. I reiterated that we should have traded Prior before and that we would have been better off if we had.

 

At this point, you singled out something I said and started an argument over semantics.

 

I'm sorry, but what?

 

That was about three pages back. I am absolutely clearly not talking about that. I even quoted the bit I was talking about to be absolutely clear on that.

 

Perhaps my quote though wasn't comprehensive enough. Let's try this again, and actually read it this time...

 

Until something changes, is the probability not 100%? What else do you have to go on to make it less? If Adam Morrison starts his NBA career 100 for 100 in free throws, how is the probability of him making No. 101 not 100% until he actually misses one.

 

Erm, the most basic rules of probability?

 

It seems like you are saying probability, percentages and trends are meaningless.

 

No, what I'm actually saying is that you don't understand basic probability.

 

I just don't understand why you think Prior will not go on the DL next year. What are the facts that show he won't?

 

There are no facts that show that he won't. I've never even said that I don't think Prior will go on the DL next year.

 

But what I have said about a million times now is that there are no facts that show that Prior will go the DL next year, and that therefore you regarding it as guaranteed is ridiculous.

 

Do you really not know what a fact is? Because just about the only fact that would guarantee that Prior would go on the DL next year is "Mark Prior underwent Tommy John surgery on May 22nd 2006" or something along those lines. Now unless you've got devastating information you want to share with us, your statement that Prior is guaranteed to go on the DL at some point next year is just nothing but entirely, completely, utterly, absolutely wrong.

 

You can't be serious. When something keeps happening, it's a trend. Until the trend ends, it's most likely to continue. I never friggin' guaranteed anything. Stop letting your bias toward Prior because you like him as a pitcher or he signed an autograph or had a great 03 get in the way of your view of reality. Until he goes a whole year without going on the DL, we should expect him to. It's not absolute, but until something different happens, it's very likely to happen.

 

Why don't you quit while you're behind. Each post you make only makes things look worse for you.

 

And the worst part is, I'm the only one with facts on my side.

[srbin84]

And the worst part is, I'm the only one with facts on my side. The opposition who likes Prior and wants to keep him just has gut feelings and such to go on.

 

Almost ironic given that you're the one that doesn't appear to know what a fact is. After all, you're the one that for about two pages insisted that Prior having gone on the DL in previous years meant it was a fact that he would do likewise in future years. But, like I said, almost. Because for it to be actually ironic you don't have any facts on your side. And you don't.

 

He's been hurt 5 out of 5 seasons and his numbers in his last two years are far worse than his numbers in his first two years. He hasn't played this year yet. Those are facts.

 

And in what way are those facts factually pertinent to discussion as to whether or not Prior will go on the DL next year?

 

They're not.

 

Correct, and the reason is that wasn't the discussion.

 

Erm, it wasn't?

 

We were talking about whether Prior would go on the DL next year, and you said you were the one with the facts on your side.

 

Just how short term is your memory?

 

You can't be serious. When something keeps happening, it's a trend. Until the trend ends, it's most likely to continue. I never friggin' guaranteed anything. Stop letting your bias toward Prior because you like him as a pitcher or he signed an autograph or had a great 03 get in the way of your view of reality. Until he goes a whole year without going on the DL, we should expect him to. It's not absolute, but until something different happens, it's very likely to happen.

 

Why don't you quit while you're behind. Each post you make only makes things look worse for you.

 

And the worst part is, I'm the only one with facts on my side.

 

Actually, we were talking about how Prior gets hurt all of the time and that causes bad players to play in his place. I reiterated that we should have traded Prior before and that we would have been better off if we had.

 

At this point, you singled out something I said and started an argument over semantics.

 

I'm sorry, but what?

 

That was about three pages back. I am absolutely clearly not talking about that. I even quoted the bit I was talking about to be absolutely clear on that.

 

Perhaps my quote though wasn't comprehensive enough. Let's try this again, and actually read it this time...

 

Until something changes, is the probability not 100%? What else do you have to go on to make it less? If Adam Morrison starts his NBA career 100 for 100 in free throws, how is the probability of him making No. 101 not 100% until he actually misses one.

 

Erm, the most basic rules of probability?

 

It seems like you are saying probability, percentages and trends are meaningless.

 

No, what I'm actually saying is that you don't understand basic probability.

 

I just don't understand why you think Prior will not go on the DL next year. What are the facts that show he won't?

 

There are no facts that show that he won't. I've never even said that I don't think Prior will go on the DL next year.

 

But what I have said about a million times now is that there are no facts that show that Prior will go the DL next year, and that therefore you regarding it as guaranteed is ridiculous.

 

Do you really not know what a fact is? Because just about the only fact that would guarantee that Prior would go on the DL next year is "Mark Prior underwent Tommy John surgery on May 22nd 2006" or something along those lines. Now unless you've got devastating information you want to share with us, your statement that Prior is guaranteed to go on the DL at some point next year is just nothing but entirely, completely, utterly, absolutely wrong.

 

You can't be serious. When something keeps happening, it's a trend. Until the trend ends, it's most likely to continue. I never friggin' guaranteed anything. Stop letting your bias toward Prior because you like him as a pitcher or he signed an autograph or had a great 03 get in the way of your view of reality. Until he goes a whole year without going on the DL, we should expect him to. It's not absolute, but until something different happens, it's very likely to happen.

 

Why don't you quit while you're behind. Each post you make only makes things look worse for you.

 

And the worst part is, I'm the only one with facts on my side.

 

Yeah, I was still talking about the original argument. I figured that picking apart that statement was your best defense. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Diffusion]

Yeah, I was still talking about the original argument. I figured that picking apart that statement was your best defense. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

I'd love to believe you, but you weren't. You're just saying that as it's an easy out for you. But let's look again at what you wrote...

 

And the worst part is, I'm the only one with facts on my side. The opposition who likes Prior and wants to keep him just has gut feelings and such to go on.

 

The "opposition who likes Prior" is only using their "gut feelings and such" to project how they think Prior will fare in the future. They're not commenting at all about how Prior has done in previous years. You can't have a gut feeling about whether or not Prior went on the DL in 2004.

 

You clearly set yourself up as opposed to this opposition. What then are you opposing? You're opposing their opinions as to how Prior will fare in the future, that's the only thing you can be opposing. There's nothing else for you to be opposing.

 

And, opposing this, you said you had the facts on your side. Since we've clearly established that there are no facts as to how Prior will fare in the future, I said that and you freely agreed with that. So, if there are no facts as to how Prior will do in the future, how can they be on your side? They can't. Therefore you're wrong.

 

Just deal with it. Quit digging for yourself deeper and deeper holes by pretending you didn't say stuff, pretending you were talking about something else, constantly changing your argument and every single other trick you're pulling every single time your points are refuted.

[srbin84]

It's seems to me like you are the one doing that. Nevertheless, let's drop it, and I will once again state how I feel. Prior has been hurt every year he has been in the big leagues. When he does play, he puts up far worse numbers than he did at the start of his career. He hasn't played this year. For these reasons, I think he should have been moved before as I stated then, and I would like the Cubs to move him now if they can get a good player for him.

[Diffusion]

It's seems to me like you are the one doing that.

 

Where has my argument changed? Where I have I said I didn't say anything when I clearly did?

[srbin84]

It's seems to me like you are the one doing that.

 

Where has my argument changed? Where I have I said I didn't say anything when I clearly did?

 

You never directly responded to the original discussion yet still argued with me about something else presumably because you didn't like what I originally said about Prior.

[Diffusion]

It's seems to me like you are the one doing that.

 

Where has my argument changed? Where I have I said I didn't say anything when I clearly did?

 

You never directly responded to the original discussion yet still argued with me about something else presumably because you didn't like what I originally said about Prior.

 

So? I can respond to what I want to respond to.

[wolf stansson]

Hey guys, Cardinals rookie reliever just homered in his first ML at bat. That means he'll hit a homer next at bat right? You know, because he is 1-1 with a homer? That's how percentages work right?