No Devine wasn't but that's all I've heard every time a BE team beats someone. They're having a down year or so and so was hurt or their the 7th best team in the league. And again, dismissing Maryland who was 9-3 and 2-0 this year goes with the turf. Are they Florida, no, but they sure are not Mississippi St either. And my point was that as freshman, White and Slaton ran by the best of the SEC and have continued to do so against whoever they have played. First off, Maryland was not 9-3 last year. They were 9-4 with losses to WVU, Ga Tech, BC and Wake Forest. Second, going 2-0 this year is not impressive in the least. They beat Villanova by 17 - a 1-AA team that finished 6-5 last year. They also beat Florida International who is possibly the worst 1-A team. That's not the least bit impressive. West Virginia is a legitimate National Championship contender. They are a great football team. I don't argue that point at all. But, you're not going to make the point by holding up a win over a very mediocre Maryland team. Better wins will come this season for WVU, don't try to make this look like anything more than it is - an easy win they should have had. I suppose what you think is easy and what I do are two different things. I agree that WV has to play better defense to have a chance to win this thing and it was a win they were favored to have but to dismiss it as easy, well I suppose semantics are involved. I'm curious on what you think a tough win would be? I'm not talking elite tough but a tough win against what you would consider a good team. Easy was probably the wrong word, but it was a game West Virginia should have won and should have won big. They did, and it's to their credit. It's not a huge win for the program, nor were they playing a "very good" football team. As for what a tough win would be, I would probably classify South Florida as a tough win. West Virginia should win the game, but I'll be surprised if they do it by more than a couple of scores. The Bulls aren't an elite team yet, but are very solid and will give anybody a good fight. Now a question for you. Why do you use Maryland's wins over Villanova and Florida International as reasons to refer to them as a "very good" team, and then chasitse other teams for playing mediocre 1-A teams - even though those mediocre teams are leaps and bounds better than Nova and FIU? I agree those wins by Maryland were of poor quality but I also looked at what they had coming back from their very good 9-4 and it pushed them into that territory. How many teams won 9 or more games last year? I think that pushes them over average.