1 year does not a career make. so we are just going to have to disagree. Kyle has up years and then down years. A 4.48 lifetime ERA in 441 games tells me he is not a great pitcher. Kyle is a space cadet and cant handle pressure. He wont make it a week as Yankee closer if Rivera has to go to the DL. The Bronx is a Zoo and will eat him alive. Edit: Here are some split numbers. G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA Bases Empty 419 0 0 0 0 0 0 292.2 290 89 81 43 136 317 2.49 1.46 .247 Runners On 361 0 0 0 0 0 0 280.0 245 223 202 38 130 268 6.49 1.34 .245 RISP 295 0 0 0 0 0 0 164.1 152 170 152 23 95 166 8.32 1.50 .250 RISP w/2 Outs 250 0 0 0 0 0 0 78.2 78 155 141 14 53 88 16.13 1.67 .250 Bases Loaded 58 0 0 0 0 0 0 16.1 20 18 16 2 4 16 8.82 1.47 .317 That is what tells me about pressure. While I understand the point you're trying to make, isn't it inherently more difficult to have high ERA when there is no one on base? I bet if you pulled a lot of pitchers stats, you would see something similar. Perhaps not as extreme as these numbers, but the same trend. I agree with you to a point, but the example you used may not be the best. Exactly. That was one of the absolute worst use of statistics, ever. Oh so you're saying he tends to give up more runs when the bases are loaded versus none on? Hmm. Whoda thunk it. :roll: How do inherited runners increase his ERA? I see that total runs are higher when there are runners on, but they wouldn't be Kyle's earned runs. Or am I missing something?