First: the stats in the original posts aren't necessarily indicative of a good manager. Second: (and maybe this is what you meant, obp is pretty interesting. Girardi has coaxed a similar/better hitting team out of less talent. And a lot less experienced hitters. I'll give you less experienced, although Girardi really didn't have a choice. Less talent is questionable. I'll take the Cabrera at 3B, Hanley Ramirez at SS and Uggla/Walker is close at 2B. Hermida in RF, and Willingham in LF. That's 4 or 5 of 8 position players where I'd rather have Marlins. And that's right now, not future. That's pretty depressing when you think of it. i know. if both teams were going to be able to spend the same amount in the FA market this offseason, would it even be close next year? it might not even be close anyway. :x