In fairness, I included the injury caveat when I first proposed the bet. Also, if Spivey doesn't play, that doesn't count as an injury. And unlike Vance's bet, mine only refers to Spivey, it doesn't include any other player at 2nd. I don't see what's so "weak" about this bet. Vance, do I owe you a hat if Spivey is released outright or traded (could be a very realistic possibility) or is the bet off? If he's released, I would then say that the Cubs group is more productive. If traded, we could see what he does for the new team. I'm not a stickler for rules though. And I'm not going to harass you for a hat, so you decide.