That is one god-awful statistic. But hey, a K is always the same as every other out eh? So would you think more of Dunn if his 19 hits the past 3 seasons with a runner on 3rd less than 2 outs were actually just routine flyballs to center-field? Would he be more valuable if instead of having 6 HRs in this situation, those homeruns stayed in the park instead of leaving? I know you're thinking Dunn must be a horrible player with a runner on 3rd less than 2 outs because of his lack of sacrifice flies, but once again, the stats show that Dunn is awesome. .268/.433/.620 and he has 57 RBI in 71 ABs. but yeah i agree since dunn drove in runs by slugging the ball instead of hitting flyouts he sucks and is overrated .268 isn't that good, especially for a 'great' player. And what good is a walk in that situation? It's better than an out, sure, but it's not what you need. It's certainly not what a 'great' player is trying to do. But hey, the guy is only batting .242 this year, lifetime .248, so I guess you can't expect too much. Pretty good tho - 57 rbis in 71 abs, tho the bbs are taken out. He's only K'd 25 times in that situation is surprising, tho still not very good. But you don't go that long without a sacrifice fly for a reason.... Just to refresh from earlier in the thread, I've always said I wasn't sold on Dunn, and that I needed to see 2 good seasons in a row from the guy. He's doing pretty well this year - very Dunn-like. SBs are way down - the guy is going to be a real liability in LF in a few years. He really should go to an AL team where he can DH towards the end of the long term contract he'll get. Not good, huh? So what is the league average in that situation then? Prove that those numbers aren't very good before dismissing them. Man that sounds like a lot of work, and I really should do some work that I get paid to supposedly do... and anyway, are you trying to prove Dunn is an average player or a 'great' player. I'll certainly agree that Dunn is at least average. It's 'great' that I'm still reserving judgment on. No, but I'm trying to prove that even in the area of his game where his detractors try to say he is weak, that he is above average. I'd say a 25 yr old with a 900 career OPS is at least very good and has the potential and is on the cusp of being great, yes.