I asked you a couple weeks ago how your performance is measured at your place of employment. You seemed unable to give me an answer. What does USS' performance measurement at work have to do with anything? This is about how to measure a pitcher's performance and you can't measure that by wins. Wins is a team stat. Roger Clemens is the perfect example. He only won 13 games this year because the Astros' offense was pathetic behind him. He had the best ERA in the game. If he were playing for the Cardinals he would probably have had more wins than Carpenter this year. Clemens and Wood are not even in the same league. Clemens has won with every team-good and bad. Clemens finishes what he starts. Yet he only won 13 game this year. So by your standards of 20 games being a good year, he had a awful one, right?