Scott, if anyone is still in the denial stage, it has got to be you. That isn't meant in a bad way at all. The thing is, I couldn't even force myself to type half of the stuff you do in maintaining your "spirited" defense of this team's chances at coming out of their funk. You were in there until the end today in the game thread, despite people like me telling you that you were crazy. (Exaggeration, but you get my point.) I can see why you might say that but if you have ever witnessed first hand a good team going down the drain like this years Cubs seem to be then you just accept it and see what the kids do like Cory Pat. and Murton and Hill at the Major League level. I just want the team to show a little pride now and the boo bird fans to go away. It's not denial at all. I was angry for some time about it and the wife had to tell me to just let it go. It isn't going to happen this year. Be glad you know it now. Most fans of other teams will die a horrible death because their team is still close unlike the Cubs. But if you read my posts they are more positive because the Anger part of the threads just get boring after awhile. I was thinking of the NSBB typical quotes that personify the list. Denial: "The Cubs still can make a run if they win all there remaining games they might have a chance." Anger: "Dusty stinks, Neifi Stinks, the pen, our batting, Cory Patterson all are terrible and should be booed!!!!" Bargaining: "If they fire Dusty, and Hendry now the Cubs just might pull this season out of the fire." Depression: "Oh did the Cubs lose, I mean play today? Oh well" Acceptance: "The 2005 Cubs team just didn't have what it takes to play playoff baseball with the injuries, bad basic baseball execution and bad back office and on-field management decisions the team could not remain consistent for any prolong period of time. What do we need to do for 2006?" How's that?