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The chances are probably pretty damn close to zero. They just upgraded 3B with probably the best option on the table. If their goal is to make a baseline 90 wins team, you don't turn around and trade him and end up in the exact same position you started with in 2023 and 2024.

That's about all Hoyer is shooting for if you dig into his latest comments on the season. He brought up how last year mid 80s wins got you a wildcard spot, so they planned for the same this year, but it's going to end up around 90 wins. Talking about wildcard games when he should be talking about division titles.

Literally the only thing he said that was right was Gilbert is out of min salary years.

It's less about arguing and more about teaching someone how to read. It's impossible though, so why try. You can literally quote what you already wrote down and explain what it means and he still doesnt get it.

Because Wicks got injured, not because they are calling up rookies to throw a AAA team on the field in the last week.

Probably more to do with integrity. The Cubs are out and there's no chance to being a spoiler, but there could be some implications in the playoffs for the Phillies, Dodgers, and Yankees in this series. The Phillies are 1 game behind the Dodgers for the best record in baseball and tied with the Yankees. Home field in the playoffs is potentially at stake.

Thank you for reminding me who I'm talking with. I didn't limit Gilbert to Jackson Holliday, clown. I said "anything short of Jackson Holliday." That means he's the floor. The Cubs aren't competing in that ballpark. Chiefs game just ended. Time for bed.

When have I ever said the Mariners can get what they want for Miller? Can you keep track of anything? I said they can get anything they want for Gilbert... not Miller. Go back and actually read what I said. I said IFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF the Mariners are going to be trading one of their pitchers, it's going to be Miller versus Woo.

You dont understand the significance of a guy that's pitching like a legit ace versus a guy who's living on his ability to limit walks? Bryce Miller does nothing special beyond throwing strikes. He's not like Kirby that is making guys chase. He doesn't generate swing and miss. He doesn't induce weak contact. He's simply an ok pitcher that isn't going to give up a free base. A guy like Miller's profile probably gets mid to upper teens on the open market. Gilbert is gonna get $30M pitching like he has this year. Even at league minimum for Miller, Gilbert is by far the better value.

You act like Gilbert isn't dirt cheap. Compare their baseball savant pages and get back to me on Bryce Miller's WAR.

If the Mariners are trading any of their pitchers for a bat its between Miller and Woo. Gilbert isn't going anywhere for anything short of Jackson Holliday.

You really dont understand why pitchers on 1 year deals would be more available in trade than a guy going into arb 1?

Castillo signed an extension with the Mariners and has a full NTC through 2025.

Sounds like a whole lot of reasons a playoff caliber team wont trade him.

For the trade for a TOR SP crowd, who are you looking at that is better than Steele and/or Imanaga that is potentially available in trade and at a cost the Cubs can afford in prospects? I can only come up with 4 and all but one is coming with only 1 year of control. Garrett Crochet, Dylan Cease, Michael King, and Framber Valdez. Every one of those guys is going to cost a pretty nice prospect, if not multiple pretty nice prospects, in return for a very short window of opportunity, Crochet being the only one I would consider over trading those prospects for a bat on a 1 year deal. There's 4 pitchers going into FA that you could argue in various ways would be #1 on the Cubs. Jack Flaherty, Yusei Kikuchi, Max Fried, and Nathan Eovaldi. Which pitcher are you trading for that is potentially available in trade that is better than them at a cost the Cubs can afford in prospects? I would much rather sign one of the FAs to a modest deal. Probably not going to be Flaherty even though he probably fits the Cubs MO the most, I just think he'll get a deal that would make me uncomfortable betting on 1 year of success following multiple years of failure, similar to how teams viewed Bellinger last season. And then use tier 2 prospects to trade for a guy like Reid Detmers to fill in the back of the rotation. Then I still have my tier 1 prospects to go after a bat and/or catcher.

Well, Wisdom broke up a no hitter and shut out with one swing. Thanks for your contribution to the 2024 season, Wisdom. Good luck on your new team in 2025 (hopefully).

If the Cubs ate a hefty chunk of Bellinger's contract, the Royals would be a team that would probably have interest. Of course, even eating a sizeable chunk of his contract isn't going to return much. Maybe you swing for a guy like Steven Zobac who had a good year in AA with the fastball-slider combo this organization covets.

Happ and Suzuki arent going anywhere. I don't know why it keeps getting brought up. There's only 2 position players in the lineup with the possibility of being traded to shake things up (not counting Bellinger), Hoerner and Paredes.

If Seattle wanted him, he for sure wouldnt be getting a better deal than he has because they have no need outside of replacing Justin Turner.

So if Bellinger returns we are going to trade one of two guys that have full NTCs instead of the guy that returned with no trade protections and is a worse player? Interesting theory.

Something worse. The Cubs will fail to make the post season again. So there's no sense in pushing a guy who just came back from an elbow injury.

Nico Hoerner isn't going to net any starter from the Mariners. If the Mariners wanted to go that route they would be calling up the Orioles and talking about Holliday.

I'm not convinced they view Caissie as the best option, he simply will be able to be an option because he hasn't used any MiLB option years since hes not on the 40 man. Alcantara had to be added a couple years ago to protect him from the rule 5 draft, so he only has 1 year left. That's 1 year before any kind of playing time will be available for him, so he'll be rotting on the bench or DFA'd during that time. Hoyer has known this for over a year since he gave the 2 corner OFers NTC's and PCA was going to beat him to MLB. The only thing I can think of for why he is even in the organization now is for PCA insurance in case he failed, but it's beyond time to trade Alcantara to improve the mediocrity at the MLB level.

And we were all here to Cit.

At this point, Jed should be more than willing to trade major prospects and spend. If he's not, find someone else.