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  1. yeah, he'd probably just hit 250/360/430 for us. we sure dont need that.
  2. I doubt the catcher CHARGED him with anything. This whole hypothetical legal discussion is regarding what he COULD be charged with should this replacement ump seek a legal redress. well the legal stuff isnt going to happen, so i was trying to talk about why it's silly to say he should be suspended forever.
  3. Me too. And Tiger....it doesn't matter, for the purposes of the incident, it could still be considered a deadly weapon. as far as charging him with the crime, right?
  4. http://espn.go.com/minorlbb/news/2001/0704/1222517.html assault with a deadly weapon (leg) it doesnt matter that the catcher was wearing a mask since it doesn't matter that the umpire was wearing a chest guard SIX GAME SUSPENSION!!!!! the young thing is obviously much worse, but is it the hundreds of times worse that it would have to be to warrant a lifetime ban?
  5. Apparently Edmonds only has problems with cold showers, not cold locker rooms. niiiiiiiiiiice!
  6. Eh, he flipped a bat at him, so what the hell....He didn't flip his bat. Goodness, are y'all watching the same video as I am?? Anyways, yes, if someone really wanted to go after him they could charge him with aggravated assault...which in the Model Penal Code reads: And yes, a bat is considered a deadly weapon. if you buy a dvd and watch it with a friend who is not in your family, you've just committed copyright infringement. it's almost as though courts look at these things on a case-by-case basis for a reason.
  7. Actually, the law is quite relevant given the fact that contracts basically allow baseball to exist. It's why labor lawyers represent the Player's Association. It's why almost all sports agents have law degrees. I'm sure there's plenty of language in the CBA and various other codes in baseball that has to do with actions like these, accidents, and intent. That's how punishments are decided upon and meted out. Baseball has a legal governing structure; it's reasonable to bring this "jargon" into the equation. you really think they're going to use the legal definition of intent when determining how long to suspend him? and that they'll ignore the common definition of intent? I fail to see how the legal definition and common definition of intent are different. I'd like to see how you separate the two.
  8. He potentially committed a FELONY on the baseball diamond. A ban is hardly excessive. carl everett headbutted a player. did you want him banned?
  9. Actually, the law is quite relevant given the fact that contracts basically allow baseball to exist. It's why labor lawyers represent the Player's Association. It's why almost all sports agents have law degrees. I'm sure there's plenty of language in the CBA and various other codes in baseball that has to do with actions like these, accidents, and intent. That's how punishments are decided upon and meted out. Baseball has a legal governing structure; it's reasonable to bring this "jargon" into the equation. you really think they're going to use the legal definition of intent when determining how long to suspend him? and that they'll ignore the common definition of intent?
  10. You do see the difference in "battery" and "attempted murder"? Nobody is saying he was trying to kill him. However, Delmon HIMSELF said he was trying to hit the umpire. So you can stop with the "accident" crap. Have you even watched the video??? He threw his freaking bat at an umpire. This wasn't some underhanded, excuse me flip, toss of the bat. He THREW his bat at another person. I seriously wonder about you sometimes dude. i never said it was an accident. i have watched the video. i don't know why you can't reply to my posts without throwing in comments like the last one. please stop it.
  11. Then on SC, they say "sources" (presumable teammates or coaches) say he intended to hit the ump with the bat. I don't see how Young can be defended here. he can be defended in that some people are suggesting he be banned from baseball forever and that is laughably excessive. he can be punished severely without suspending him for the season. that's what should happen.
  12. What does that mean? If I go drive drunk that doesn't mean I intend to kill someone, but I might. if you drove drunk with the intent of killing someone you'd probably be punished more strictly than if you did it on accident. both are bad things to do, but one of them is worse.
  13. Sigh. why are you sighing? you should be delighting in his failure due to your irrational hatred for corey. that's better.
  14. delmon young is a moron. he should be punished. delmon young is not a guy who decided that since the umpire screwed up he was going to kill him with a bat. he should not be punished in that manner. also, until the umpire takes legal action, we can just drop the legal jargon, as it's irrelevant to the suspension discussion.
  15. i know that if i wanted to hurt an umpire with a bat, the way to do it would be an awkward underhanded flip from ten feet away, while also taking care to keep it low to the ground. come on people, this is ridiculous.
  16. Can you judge him by one stat only without knowing what his coaches are asking him to work on? I completely agree that plate discipline is important, but I also know that players in the minors are often asked to work on a specific aspect of their game. And that working on that aspect can impact their stats. If his coaches have told him his number one goal is to improve plate discipline then his BB/K is disappointing. But if he's working on something else and his coaches think he's making progress on whatever that may be, then I have to trust them. if the cubs coaches have decided there are more pressing things that harvey needs to work on than improving his k/bb ratio, he's not going to make simply on account of that.
  17. agreed, this would be much more acceptable if an established major leaguer did it
  18. doesn't this board have enough pessimistic threads? go post in the optimistic thread
  19. I don't think anyone's being awfully defensive. No one has argued that his article is wrong. The criticism is based on two things: one, this article was written for retards, and two, his past writings. He's always been a biased hack, foxsports should be able to do with him. he's the one who's biased, but you're proclaiming his article to be written for retards?
  20. STILL WAITING FOR STICKY
  21. you guys are awfully defensive. i think it's obvious that if you made a list of all the star players who are performing extremely well but are definitely going to fall back to earth, maddux is at the top.
  22. also known as the thread where we can talk about the cubs and not be yelled at for considering the possibility that the Cubs may lose games due to poor play in the future
  23. this lineup could be brutal, im afraid
  24. cubs as a team, home= 323 obp/420 slg cubs as a team, away= 317obp/415slg educated. I don't see what that proves. Pierre's legs are what gets him a lot of infield singles. Cold weather hurts that aspect of his game, big time, which isn't the case for the majority of the team, which doesn't largely depend on speed to get a base hit. I don't get it. Pierre's not getting thrown out by half a step in half his at bats, he's just making outs all over the place. in june, juan pierre is going to be so fast that he'll beat out routine groundballs to second twice a game
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