Magnetic Curses

purdue has scored 3 points since i got out of my car like 35 minutes ago.

davis played without much in front of him. a good line can make a good cornerback look great. ohio state gets studs up front every single year.

as opposed to other corners who aren't as good? that makes no sense.

-Davis being better in man coverage is debatable. Part of the problem is Ohio State's defensive scheme is so zone oriented that Jenkins rarely had an opportunity to play in man coverage. The few times he did, though, he had no problems with it. -I have already said that Davis is faster than Jenkins, and in retrospect I probably should have given Davis the nod in strength. For some reason I forgot that Vontae was a workout warrior. -Who is more physical is again debatable. Jenkins is better at playing against the run, press coverage, and blitzing. Davis is probably the bigger hitter of the two. That's wonderful. So is Jenkins. I guess that depends on what qualities teams look for in the players they draft. If a team is looking for an intelligent player that plays well consistently and shows better overall technique then Malcolm Jenkins is probably the way to go. If you want the cornerback with eye popping measureables who has yet to show them on the field then Vontae Davis is your choice. Jenkins has also played free safety quite a bit while at Ohio State. BTW what were the reasons that Ron Zook chose to demote Davis from time to time last season? vontae davis hasn't shown anything on the field. yeah, you're right, he never did anything in college. iirc, he was a two time first team all-big ten player, just like jenkins. so, i guess he must have done more than have big muscles and run real fast. what are you takling about? great players get demoted from time to time because their coaches think they can do better, which is why vontae was briefly demoted last year. it's been done before. jenkins was a great college player that will have a place in the pros. he will not make his money as a cover corner in man coverage. he will not be a great professional player, vontae will, imo.

can't believe some mocks still have jenkins going ahead of davis. that's a joke as jenkins will be drafted as a safety, which he hasn't played. What is so hard to believe about Malcolm Jenkins being picked ahead of Vontae Davis? Outside of straight line speed, is there anything that Davis does better than Jenkins? well, he's better in man coverage, he's stronger, faster, and more physical. is that enough? like i said, there's a reason jenkins is projected as a safety or a cover-2 corner and it's not because he's better than davis at many things. davis is a shut-down corner, if your team need is at cornerback, you'd be wise to take him, if your team need is safety, you could take a chance on a guy who has never played the position before, i guess. "is there anything davis does better than jenkins?" haha.

can't believe some mocks still have jenkins going ahead of davis. that's a joke as jenkins will be drafted as a safety, which he hasn't played.

illinois, indiana, purdue, and mizzou fans post more in this thread than those of any other teams. neither purdue nor indiana play mizzou.

btw, illinois-arizona 2005 on btn right now.

John Brown was such a bad ass. he really was, but i have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of kansas students wouldn't actually like him all that well if they knew much about him. i personally think violent uprisings are awesome, but i'm somewhat outside the norm, sadly. Yeah, you're probably correct. I'm pretty close to a pacifist and yet I can't help but think he was a bad ass. The most shocking thing to me about John Brown is that Thoreau praised him. john brown is my favorite historical figure. i would gladly trade lincoln to kansas for him.

oh no we're getting smoked by a very good kansas team at the phog what a big surprise. i wonder if illinois would score 20 at kansas. I wonder if Mizzou would beat Illinois on a neutral court. How can we beat a team that has never actually lost a game? i can help you answer this question: you didn't. congrats on your win today. what? we lost to a better team. don't see what that has to do with the annual ass-kicking in st louis.

i wanted to acquire koskie years ago, before the concussions. i had this dream of the cubs going cheap and focusing on obp and isod. now, he's a good corner infielder that can take a walk and hit for a little power.

just re-lived the second greatest shot in illini history on btn.

oh no we're getting smoked by a very good kansas team at the phog what a big surprise. i wonder if illinois would score 20 at kansas. I wonder if Mizzou would beat Illinois on a neutral court. Maybe, in 2020 they will have stopped playing the game by that. i remember that some writer from st louis wrote an article after the last one about how the game doesn't make sense for mizzou, but it was really about 1 thing, the series has been so one-sided that it's pointless for the tigers to go on embarassing themselves. and it's probably just going to get worse.

oh no we're getting smoked by a very good kansas team at the phog what a big surprise. i wonder if illinois would score 20 at kansas. I wonder if Mizzou would beat Illinois on a neutral court. How can we beat a team that has never actually lost a game? i can help you answer this question: you didn't.

This is the biggest reason why the tournament should be in Chicago. Its not like Indianapolis isn't dominated by Big Ten alums. My experience (and I go to both cities a lot) is Indy is more in tune with the Big Ten. Yes Chicago has the most total fans but they also have a whole lot of people who could care less about the Big Ten because Chicago is so big. Indianapolis in my experience has less non-Big Ten fans. You can go to Chicago, walk around downtown and not see Big Ten gear anywhere. You go to Indianapolis on any day you will see people in IU, Purdue, Ohio State, Michigan and Illinois gear. yeah, i'm pretty sure that my town has a bigger percentage of big ten fans than chicago, but we can't get the tournament. percentage is meaningless. chicago has far more big ten fans, meaning more interest and more money. percentage has nothin to do with it. this is not what city most embodies the spirit of the big ten contest. it's about money and patronage. indy isn't a bad place to play it, but chicago is infinitely better.

michigan will get the benefit of the doubt as far as bubble teams go. beilein has some history of coaching in some big games in the dance and they have 2 of the most exciting players in the conference, if not the country.

it's nice to be back in the tournament.

MSU would have to lose what, 2-3, with one of them being to UI and UI wins out to get the title? 2 to share, 3 for outright. but the illini can take msu in champaign. maybe msu will put the banner up prematurely again and have to take it down.

maybe i've never noticed that before, but do the refs genberally touch each other like that? Ed looked like he was going to slip him some tongue. yeah, it was an intimate moment.

No technically about it, we'll be up half a game on Purdue. yeah, but the loss column is really what matters.

maybe i've never noticed that before, but do the refs genberally touch each other like that?

illinois will technically be all alone in 2nd place.

you don't see much defense outside of the big ten. You normally see defense on Ben Howland-coached teams. yeah, he has had some good defensive players and teams over the years. i'm just saying that it seems like the big ten is the only conference where defense is stressed on every single team. but that could be my bias.

you don't see much defense outside of the big ten.

michigan lives and dies by the 3, they can take anybody out if they're on, and they have.