Splendid Splinter

I heard that comment too and was about to steer my car into a light post if not for the fresh pizza sitting on my passenger seat. If you want to say they are 2-3 years from reaching the peak of their collective performance, I suppose that argument could be made, but 3 years away from even being a playoff competitor is ridiculous. Nate Burleson, is that you?

Yep. I got a ticket for tonight game against 76ers. Should be a horrible game to watch, but I paid $15 for a 12th row seat from a friend because he didn't want to go (he's a season ticket holder).

Leonard Williams or Randy Gregory... easiest decision ever for Phil Emery

Wasn't it because of Hope got fired and Hazell came in? I can't remember exactly why Gregory backed out.

Have they said if both picks are this year? If so, I might not do it because then Bears are left with just 4 picks in the draft although they still have the top 3 rounds. If it's like 4th this year and a future 6th, then yeah I would do it.

Yes, very much so. Yep. If you're going to look at mock draft on that site, just use Charlie's. He's still not great or anything, but a LOT better than Walt and better analysis on each picks. Walter did update his mock today and he went 9: Landon Collins (he has Thompson in the 1st now although it's at 31) 41: Owamagbe Odighizuwa (Perryman went next pick and McKinney at 55) 73: Quandre Diggs

Trade deadline is today. Where did Barron come from? Has Bucs let it known they're shopping everyone?

Sounds like some of my friends at the moment. They all LITERALLY want Kyle Orton back. The reason? Because he's 3-1 with the Bills. That's it.

Anybody going to Opening Night? I'm going to Pacers/76ers. It's pretty fun as they usually have a block party/beer garden and a band before the game starts.

And the loss is somehow still his fault. Yep. I was thinking more along the line of: Packers get the ball first.. score on first drive Bears fumble the ball on kickoff... Packers scores again Touchback, 1 yard run up the middle/2 yard WR screen/incomplete 40 yard pass for offense... Packers scores on their 3rd drive 100% blame on Cutler from everyone

Cutler goes 27-33 362 yds 5 TDs 0 turnovers Packers 49 Bears 35

This. I think you "could" make a case for 5-3 at best with an elite offense as the 27 by Dolphins is borderline. Last year we had 5 games with 21 pts or less and 2 more games at 23 and 24 pts.

Good enough for 10th in the league in scoring...and now the defense...32nd in league in scoring. I was going to say that they're above average although I think it's slighty? 23 20 19 38 31 13 27 51 Yay defense?

I just want a Jeffery TD but I'm solely motivated by Fantasy at this point. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Same here and I have Cutler as well so a Cutler to Jeffery TD would be really sweet for me.

Ok... I'm putting the blame back on Cutler now that the D finally forced a punt.

I'm glad he is doing this TBH. If last week wasn't a wake up call, Pats scoring 50+ pts this week will be. Wake up call for what? Accountability I hope.

I'm glad he is doing this TBH. If last week wasn't a wake up call, Pats scoring 50+ pts this week will be.

LOL... I wonder if the media will spin it somehow and still blame this loss on Cutler.

And being down by 10 on top of that.

That's my reaction on about 10-15 plays every week.

Welp... you're gonna have to beat that if you want Suh now.

i really struggle to conceive of a single worse waste of time Golf? I'm down to 3-4 rounds a year. I'll watch every round of the 4 majors and then the Ryder/President Cup.

i really struggle to conceive of a single worse waste of time Golf?

Here's my issue with this. Ok lets say he HAS to be better. You do realize what that means right? That means he's playing at the same level as Brady/Manning/Rivers/Rodgers. To be better basically means he got a 100 QB rating consistently. He's just not going to be that. Sure if it all came together for his career year in an ideal world, he can do it. He got the talent for it, but he lacks the mental part to do it consistently. Compared to his career, he HAS been better this year. It's maybe not as much as what most of you guys thought it should be, but I think the expectations were just too high for a QB like Cutler. I really don't care how much $$ he makes because A) it's not long term B) Bears had the cap space for it and it's not stopping them from signing other players C) we had no other option in FA and McCown wasn't going to be one regardless of how good he was last year and D) do you really want to start a rookie QB I've been trying to think of how I would compare Cutler and his game in other ways, but the only thing I can think of is me at golf. I'm a 6 handicap. Now I'm pretty inconsistent for someone to shoot that well. I can shoot anywhere from 72 to 85 on any given day. I'm like Cutler in a sense where I can hit a long way (he got a cannon), but my short game/putter is very iffy/meh/below average (mental game/play recognition) and I'll risk for a penalty or a bad score if I think I got a good chance at making an eagle for example (gunslinger). Sometimes it works, but more often I should have played it safe. I once shot a 41 on 9 holes with a 10. The 41 really isn't a bad score. It's good, but I could've turned in a GREAT score and the 10 is mind boggling because you're wondering where that come from. Then there are days when everything comes together and I shoot a 68-71 (68 is my best score so far). It's probably why I'm still of a fan of his because I feel like I can relate to Cutler somewhat and still think he can win/take us to the playoffs. That and I don't want to go back to the Grossman/Orton/Miller/McNown/Stewart/Chandler days. Basically what I'm trying to say is that Cutler really has played well this year so far, it's just those 4-5 passes/plays per game (out of 45 or so) are so cringe-worthy that everyone want to REALLY focus on that and just kinda ignore the other 40 plays that he was actually pretty good. Like your example of "you'd think the Bears would be 5-2 (which you could argue they would be if not for terrible Cutler turnovers in the Bills and Panthers games)". Yes, Cutler had terrible turnovers in those games, but Panthers scored 31 points and Cutler scored 3 TDs in that game. Not sure what else he could honestly do and lets not forget about Forte's fumble here. EJ Manuel look like Aaron Rodgers plus the D couldn't stop the run if they wanted to in the Bills game. The defense is NOT middle of the pack IMO. They're giving up 24 points a game and 29.8 in losses. Given up 38/31/13/27 the past 4 weeks and they're 1-3. You should expect that record. We could have won the Bills/Panthers/Dolphins maybe, but they still gave up 23/31/27 in those games. They let Manuel/Tannehill/etc looks like All-Pro against us. Defense also give up a score on 42.7% of their drives which is the exact same % as last year. Defense just aren't stopping anyone for the most part. Sure they're in the middle of the pack if you look at yards allowed, but they give up scores too often/easily. Sure Cutler's turnovers play a good part of it, but the D is still not doing their part. Have they improved though? Sure, but it's minimal at the moment. EDIT: Sorry for the long post.

67.3 comp % - highest in his career 266.6 yards per game - 2nd highest 5.3 TD % - tied for 2nd highest (3rd if you wanna count his rookie season in 5 games) 2.7 INT % - 2nd lowest (yes... you're reading that right) 94.4 QB rating - highest 63.34 ESPN total QBR - 3rd highest Basically what this means to me is that he just got the "shittiest timing for a turnover" problem this year. Cutler really has played well enough this year to win and to not get all or most of the blame. I put bad coaching/play calling/player development/fundamentals/knowing your assignments/boneheaded penalties/defense still below average overall (still giving up 24 pts/game and giving up a score on 43% on the drives so far which is the same % as last year) before I get to Cutler. But if we're talking just players only, then yes... Cutler would be at the top because QB is so important to a team. Allen could be ahead of him, but he's about the only player. Also just curious if anyone knows... out of the 7 INTs and however many fumbles he lost (I think it's 5 now), has the defense stop the other team from scoring just ONCE yet this year? It seems like they haven't and it just makes the turnovers from Cutler look even worse. It just compound the mistakes. It doesn't help that every turnover the other team returns it for like 40+ yards so they already got a short field. Not saying Cutler shouldn't get his share of blame because he does, but it seems like Lovie's defense a lot of the time would stop the other team from scoring after a turnover so it was no harm no foul type and wasn't made as big of a deal. We're not getting that this year. Then my last point... Is it just me or has Jeffery's and Marshall's hands taken a step back this year? Injuries could've been a part of it, but man... I've seen quite a few passes that they aren't catching this year that were no brainers last year. They're also not as aggressive going after or coming back to the ball as last year.