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plus his numbers were kind of pumped up by fenway

Miles is also going to be our power lefty off the bench. not the point

Agreed...Your trading a 4th outfielder, a utility infielder, and a pitcher who can't throw a strike let alone pitch The problem is, think of the package we could have gotten for those 3 last offseason. We probably gotten Brian Roberts or anyone else along those lines. Now, we'll get a whole lot of nothing. While our actual loss may be a 4th outfielder, utility man, and a guy who might be finished, our opportunity cost is much larger. A complete butchering of what were once very valuable (and sought after) assets. butchering? more like bad luck. hindsight is 20/20. at the time, trading hill for roberts was a really bad move. there was no reason for hendry to think hill would completely meltdown.

that was a really weird article

as have i see, this is what i'm talking about. what does that post even mean. "as have i"? that's just nonsense that has nothing to do with anything/ that exchange between you two was pretty classic though, since you accidentally contradicted yourself big time. you talk about how you can form an opinion based on miniscule information (which again, is really really dumb and ignorant), then when someone does the same about you, it's "you don't know me!". just like you don't know prior and certainly don't know enough about him to be forming stupid ass "opinions"

also, miles doesn't even figure to get many at-bats as a lefty. fontenot will get all those. the majority of miles' time figures to be against lhp as a 2b.

To reallocate payroll to worse players. I never said I agreed with it

Hendry might say that he was traded to get more left-handed, but the main reason (which he obviously won't admit to) was to shed payroll.

uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so. how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not? you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible effort, willpower, desire, commitment. look those words up. they all actually mean something. And not a single one of them was going to make him healthy any faster. If you want to say you think he's lazy, so be it. What I do have a problem with is your claim that working harder was going to make him healthier or recover faster. It wasn't going to help, unless he was so dedicated that he went to medical school, became a doctor, examined his own shoulder, found the problem that other doctors (yes, that's plural) missed, and surgically repaired it himself. what a stupid, stupid thing to say. working hard to recover quickly isn't going to make him healthy faster? lol, are you serious here? have you ever had an injury that knocked you on your ass for a bit? i'm guessing not, otherwise you would know that your recovery can be expedited depending on how you intend to recoup. you're just not understanding his point. he's not saying you don't have to work hard. he's saying that at a certain point, with certain injuries, you've maxed out the effect that working out has on your recovery. with serious injuries like prior had/has, working only can do so much. despite what fantasy you want to believe, there are injuries tht you can't just "work off". you can do what you can to help speed the process along, but prior couldn't just cure his injuries with work.

uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so. how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not? you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible effort, willpower, desire, commitment. look those words up. they all actually mean something. And not a single one of them was going to make him healthy any faster. If you want to say you think he's lazy, so be it. What I do have a problem with is your claim that working harder was going to make him healthier or recover faster. It wasn't going to help, unless he was so dedicated that he went to medical school, became a doctor, examined his own shoulder, found the problem that other doctors (yes, that's plural) missed, and surgically repaired it himself. what a stupid, stupid thing to say. you really can't say that to other people

uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so. how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not? you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible effort, willpower, desire, commitment. look those words up. they all actually mean something. And not a single one of them was going to make him healthy any faster. If you want to say you think he's lazy, so be it. What I do have a problem with is your claim that working harder was going to make him healthier or recover faster. It wasn't going to help, unless he was so dedicated that he went to medical school, became a doctor, examined his own shoulder, found the problem that other doctors (yes, that's plural) missed, and surgically repaired it himself. courage! heart! passion! intensity!

i dont think you do now you're just being really obnoxious. ha, I'M being obnoxious? wow. umm yes. what was the point of the "will power, effort, blah blah" post? what did that provide? we already understand that you think pripr isn't healthy because of a lack off effort, and we've already explained to you why it's really stupid and you're just jumping to conclusions based on no evidence whatsoever. your most recent posts have no substance whatsoever. you're just being obnoxious. it's like a little kid. "2+2=5" "no it doesn't. her'es why" "5! 5! 5! 5! 5!" (effort, will power detemination) that's exactly what you're doing. your posts do nothing at this point. it's like you've given up and now you're just being a little kid. seriously though, you should just stop. there's no coming back from "a player can't be hurt for 5 years if he's committed".

i dont think you do now you're just being really obnoxious.

uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so. how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not? you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible effort, willpower, desire, commitment. look those words up. they all actually mean something. what is the point of this post? you're just babbling about nonsense now do you work? are you at work right now? have someone read my post to you, perhaps then it would make sense to you. or maybe try and read slower? otherwise i dont know what to tell you. sorry. stop with this garbage. i understand your post. i know what those words/phrases mean, and i know what your stance is. that post provided nothing but more filler/garbage because you still don't have a reasonable argument to back up yor claim. whatever.

uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so. how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not? you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible effort, willpower, desire, commitment. look those words up. they all actually mean something. what is the point of this post? you're just babbling about nonsense now

uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so. how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not? you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible

That'd at least make sense. I'm trying to figure out how you figured out that he wasn't committed without monitoring his work effort. just strikes me as a lazy guy. laid back, california kid who got things handed to him from a teenager on (because of his bad-assery at pitching) and got too wrapped up in the "life is good" mentality. again, i don't doubt his DESIRE to pitch. i just don't think he's a "give it your all" type of guy. to everyone... disagree with me, fine. to suggest that my theory is 100% impossible is just, well, flat out stupid and insanely closed minded. And you think it's okay to make up a complete personality workup of the guy and accuse him of negative personality traits based on nothing but a one-sentence sketch of his background? make up? no. come to a conclusion based on what you know about a person? yeah. it's called jumping to a conclusion based on NO EVIDENCE whatsoever. i don't like the way you post. i think you're a rapist. did i make that up? no. i just came to a conclusion based on what i know about a person. you have a very, very bizarre mind. no, you just don't like it when i use valid comparisons that illustrate how flawed your logic is oh well, you're just here to talk baseball

That'd at least make sense. I'm trying to figure out how you figured out that he wasn't committed without monitoring his work effort. just strikes me as a lazy guy. laid back, california kid who got things handed to him from a teenager on (because of his bad-assery at pitching) and got too wrapped up in the "life is good" mentality. again, i don't doubt his DESIRE to pitch. i just don't think he's a "give it your all" type of guy. to everyone... disagree with me, fine. to suggest that my theory is 100% impossible is just, well, flat out stupid and insanely closed minded. As someone who had some shared social circles with the guy when he was in Chicago, I can verify that there are quite a few people who have spent a lot of time with him who agree wholeheartedly with you. not surprising. not to me at least. you'll probably be asked for certified court testimony documenting this "evidence" though. it's [expletive] posts like this that make you look so bad "brian roberts cheats on his wife" "how do you know that?" "i don't need to provide any evidence. i've got a hunch"

That'd at least make sense. I'm trying to figure out how you figured out that he wasn't committed without monitoring his work effort. just strikes me as a lazy guy. laid back, california kid who got things handed to him from a teenager on (because of his bad-assery at pitching) and got too wrapped up in the "life is good" mentality. again, i don't doubt his DESIRE to pitch. i just don't think he's a "give it your all" type of guy. to everyone... disagree with me, fine. to suggest that my theory is 100% impossible is just, well, flat out stupid and insanely closed minded. And you think it's okay to make up a complete personality workup of the guy and accuse him of negative personality traits based on nothing but a one-sentence sketch of his background? make up? no. come to a conclusion based on what you know about a person? yeah. it's called jumping to a conclusion based on NO EVIDENCE whatsoever. i don't like the way you post. i think you're a rapist. did i make that up? no. i just came to a conclusion based on what i know about a person.

That'd at least make sense. I'm trying to figure out how you figured out that he wasn't committed without monitoring his work effort. just strikes me as a lazy guy. laid back, california kid who got things handed to him from a teenager on (because of his bad-assery at pitching) and got too wrapped up in the "life is good" mentality. again, i don't doubt his DESIRE to pitch. i just don't think he's a "give it your all" type of guy. to everyone... disagree with me, fine. to suggest that my theory is 100% impossible is just, well, flat out stupid and insanely closed minded. As someone who had some shared social circles with the guy when he was in Chicago, I can verify that there are quite a few people who have spent a lot of time with him who agree wholeheartedly with you. And that in no way means that he isn't giving it his all to get healthy when everything is taken away from you... your career...your life... your money... you do what you have to do to get it back. it's not like his daddy is suddenly going to buy him a new arm.

That'd at least make sense. I'm trying to figure out how you figured out that he wasn't committed without monitoring his work effort. just strikes me as a lazy guy. laid back, california kid who got things handed to him from a teenager on (because of his bad-assery at pitching) and got too wrapped up in the "life is good" mentality. again, i don't doubt his DESIRE to pitch. i just don't think he's a "give it your all" type of guy. to everyone... disagree with me, fine. to suggest that my theory is 100% impossible is just, well, flat out stupid and insanely closed minded. you're spinning things around again. nobody is saying there isn't a chance that prior isn't the hardest worker. we're saying that it's stupid for you to say that it's the reason he hasn't gotten healthy, when there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER to back up that claim. when you make a baseless accusation about a guy, and then your only argument/evidence is "well, he just seems like a lazy guy to me"... then you should expect to get trashed. i mean, come on. you said that a guy can't stay injured for 5 years if he's fully committed. that was really bad.

Yeah, the logical reason was Dusty Baker freaking abused the crap out of him, the Cubs misdiagnosed him and let him pitch through injuries, make them worse, and creating new ones. agreed! what i'm saying is that his effort/workout regimen/whatever was a contributor to that as well. denying that just blows my mind. And your proof of this is? this isn't a court of law. i'm not out to prove anything. again, just having a discussion. clearly there is no proof. it's MY OPINION. we don't even need proof. we just need you to back up your claims with some kind of logic. you've provided no reason whatsoever as to why you think he didn't work hard enough. none. until you can let us know why you think that, i'm just going to assume that you don't like him and you're looking for ways to trash him. actually he was my favorite cub for a few years. surprised? i hated to see him go down. hated it. it's not like he didn't give me an autograph and now i hate him or something stupid like that. so then tell us why you think he wasn't/isn't commited to getting healthy. you still haven't answered that

Yeah, the logical reason was Dusty Baker freaking abused the crap out of him, the Cubs misdiagnosed him and let him pitch through injuries, make them worse, and creating new ones. agreed! what i'm saying is that his effort/workout regimen/whatever was a contributor to that as well. denying that just blows my mind. It doesn't appear to be that tough of a mind to blow. burn! really guy? Yes, really. You say something stupid, and then insult the people who call you on your stupidity, then act like your baseless reasoning in the only logical explanation, and really, it doesn't say much for your mental accuity. hey dude... he's just here to talk baseball. unless that means backing up baseless accusations. that doesnt count

"kyle orton is the best quarterback in the nfl" "why do you think that" "why? i don't need proof! it's my OPINION"

Yeah, the logical reason was Dusty Baker freaking abused the crap out of him, the Cubs misdiagnosed him and let him pitch through injuries, make them worse, and creating new ones. agreed! what i'm saying is that his effort/workout regimen/whatever was a contributor to that as well. denying that just blows my mind. And your proof of this is? this isn't a court of law. i'm not out to prove anything. again, just having a discussion. clearly there is no proof. it's MY OPINION. we don't even need proof. we just need you to back up your claims with some kind of logic. you've provided no reason whatsoever as to why you think he didn't work hard enough. none. until you can let us know why you think that, i'm just going to assume that you don't like him and you're looking for ways to trash him.