First of all, I never said I'm giving up. I'm stating the obvious, which is that this team is not very good and will have to make multiple serious trades if they want any chance of winning a world series this season. Second of all, YOU are the one who during the losing streak was constantly saying that this team was done and that the season is over, so don't even start with that garbage. I don't really see how you're writing off the Braves either. If they trade for a big outfield bat (and they have the prospects leftover from the non-peavy trade to do it) that team looks pretty solid. Medlen and Hanson are legit, and if they come up and do anything at all this season, that rotation is looking really solid... def the best in that division. Their bullpen looks pretty nice with Gonzalez and Soriano at the end also. yes, I was the only one saying the season over during the game threads. Its one thing to be over the top during the game, but a new thread like this doesnt need to be started after every tough loss. uhh, i start a thread like this after every loss? show me. so you're saying it's okay to overreact and declare the season over during the game, but it's not okay to start a rational and completely true thread after one of the games? got it. the point of this thread is simple. everybody is looking for one guy to blame or one area to blame, but the bottom line is that the team in general is just not that good.