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  1. 17 Seconds
    no guys, he's awesome. he was just rushed. give him 6 more years and let's see if he shows any signs
  2. 17 Seconds
    because lou is completely clueless and needs to go
  3. 17 Seconds
    lol are you really implying that his outing wasn't awful just because he didn't give up any hits?
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    But then I would miss all of this By all means, if you need to boost your self esteem by insulting anonymous internet posters, go ahead. I'm here for you man good to know because that is exactly what i need judging by your sig, avatar, and username, i'm shocked. oh now i've resorted to your level of insults, but it feels so good! i have more self esteem already.
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    But then I would miss all of this EDIT: You could put me on ignore, if you cared enough. But I don't hate you, and I'm not going around insulting you. I don't really care about you.
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    But then I would miss all of this By all means, if you need to boost your self esteem by insulting anonymous internet posters, go ahead. I'm here for you man
  7. 17 Seconds
    Only if its the Cubs. Previous playoff experiences don't count, either. and for the 734th time, i never said anything about it only being the cubs. once again though i call out one of your ridiculous points and you change the subject instead. whatever, just put me on ignore. i'm done with this.
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    Human emotions most certainly do work that way. In fact, it's part of human emotions to falsely believe that we immune from analysis. you can break down all human emotions? so shouldn't you be rich and famous then? that's kind of groundbreaking, dude and you're accusing people of obnoxious replies? jesus Seriously 3 posts from you in a row that have done nothing more than insult me. how about you just put me on ignore buddy
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    Human emotions most certainly do work that way. In fact, it's part of human emotions to falsely believe that we immune from analysis. you can break down all human emotions? so shouldn't you be rich and famous then? that's kind of groundbreaking, dude and you're accusing people of obnoxious replies? jesus no, yours were obnoxious because you jump in out of nowhere and start asking stupid questions that you know the answer to and talking about things i've already explained over and over again.
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    Human emotions most certainly do work that way. In fact, it's part of human emotions to falsely believe that we immune from analysis. you can break down all human emotions? so shouldn't you be rich and famous then? that's kind of groundbreaking, dude
  11. 17 Seconds
    Those were just examples of what comes with the territory. They were a small part of my point, yet you keep harping on them. There is more pressure on the Cubs in general, for a ton of reasons. If you want to deny that, go ahead. I'm done with that. Anyways, read my last post. You're still trying so hard to fully break this down and pinpoint reasons for every tiny little thing. Human emotions don't work that way, Kyle. They haven't proven anything, unless you want to pretend that A) A tiny sample size shows exactly what a player is and will always be in the playoffs and B) Trying to perform in the minors is the same as trying to perform on the biggest stage while millions of people are watching them
  12. 17 Seconds
    is that the same formula that had willie harris being worth like 16 million last year? the fact of the matter is that right niow, teams pay for offense. they don't pay for defense. that forumla has willie harris being worth 16 million because of his defense, but it would be ridiculous to actually give him that. why? because you don't have to. if all you want is a badass defender, you can get them for dirt cheap
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    By the way Kyle, you kept using the "you've never met an athlete" argument. Well let me ask you this.. have you ever BEEN an athlete? I mean, have you ever played a team sport? If you did, you'd know that pressure can mount and snowball. Just because you're feeling pressure doesn't mean it's automatically going to effect you right away, or at all. This doesn't even just go for sports. You can be handling pressure fine, and then something bad happens, and it snowballs. Have you ever heard the expression "trying too hard"? Yeah, well sometimes when things start going wrong, you start trying too hard and it makes it worse. This is one of those things that can't be broken down by "science". You know, one of those human things.
  14. 17 Seconds
    "Common sense" is an almost universal code for "thing that is proven wrong by logic and science that I don't want to let go of." lol science go kyle go
  15. 17 Seconds
    im starting to think imb is right. you're just trolling me. i don't think anyone can possibly be this bizarre. you're breaking this down wayyyy too far, yet at the same time you've being completely simplistic and myopic about it all. it's like the whole idea of pressure and not being able to fully understand it is getting inside your head and tearing you apart. not evenything in life can be broken down to the 735th degree and looked at in fragments, kyle (do they do that in harry potter or something?). i could see you getting dumped by a girl and then spending 10 straight hours crafting a massive flow chart that breaks down what may have happened and why.
  16. 17 Seconds
    Except Derrek Lee. He must not be a good teammate, because he didn't let the pressure get to him. yeah, because there are never exceptions to anything in life, ever.
  17. 17 Seconds
    anymore obnoxious posts? i know you've got a few in store. whatever dude, keep pretending that the cubs just got really unlucky last season and that pressure had nothing to do with it. keep pretending that players are robots and that everything that happens on the field can be calculated in a computer. anybody with common sense who watched this team the last 2 years in the playoffs could see that they were really feeling the pressure.
  18. 17 Seconds
    More nonsense. I'm stunned. Not once have I defined any players as specifically being chokers. Actually, I've repeatedly said otherwise Perhaps you'd understand if I used some awesome Harry Potter analogies So your argument is that the team as a whole chokes, but not the players? This just keeps getting weirder. despite what you want to believe, it's a team sport.
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    and all I was asking is why pressure played a role in the the Cubs failing the last two post-seasons, but it didn't cause the BoSox to lose when they had equal if not greater pressure on them? what the hell? it seems like you're just trying to be annoying. last i checked, the 2004 red sox had different players than the 2007 and 2008 cubs. where have i ever said that the amount of pressure determines how a team would react to it? i never said that. every team reatcs differently. seriously, either read the thread or don't make obnoxious posts that could be answered by simply reading what i'm saying. I'm trying to figure out what YOUR point is, which, at this point, seems to be "There is this nebulous thing called pressure that, at times, affects some players, but not always, and not the same players each time." i think maybe you dont understand what pressure is
  20. 17 Seconds
    Probably because most people here dislike me and have no interest in defending me if they agree Any other hard hitting questions? Or would you rather just keep taking personal shots at me instead of sticking to the argument.
  21. 17 Seconds
    Then why did someone try to explain the pressure on the Cubs during the last five years as them having expectations to win? It was specifically said that they won in 2003 NLDS because nobody expected them to, but then lost recently because the expectations put too much pressure on them. Stop asking me about what other people said
  22. 17 Seconds
    More nonsense. I'm stunned. Not once have I defined any players as specifically being chokers. Actually, I've repeatedly said otherwise Perhaps you'd understand if I used some awesome Harry Potter analogies
  23. 17 Seconds
    And they weren't supposed to get destroyed and swept. By a team that got swept in the next round. By a team that got swept in the round after that. So the 2007 Cubs couldn't handle the pressure of being expected to perform competently but lose the series? The more you examine it, the more bizarre this pressure theory gets. You don't have to be expected to win to have pressure on you. Keep digging
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    I'm saying your definition of pressure seems to coincide perfectly with when you really want the team to win. Because that's what this is all about: You projecting your emotions onto professional athletes. Now you're not even making sense. Your arguments have now gone from weak to complete nonsense
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    Sorry, but Ryan Dempster pitching 1 good inning in 2007 (in a 4 run deficit in the 8th inning) doesn't suddenly mean he's immune to choking. Your arguments are becoming weaker and weaker. Next you're going to tell me how well Ryan Theriot performed in a 7th grade twinkie eating contest. Your definition of what is and is not an acceptable "pressure" situation seems to be entirely cherrypicked and have no coherent logic behind it. so you're saying that pitching an inning in relief in the 8th inning when your team is trailing by 4 runs is the same as starting the first game of the playoffs? awesome. i dont even care though, it doesn't even matter. your argument was weak from the beginning... pretending that one inning of pitching suddenly proves something about a player.
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