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  1. 17 Seconds
    this is such [expletive] gabarge. that's 2 BLATANT penalties that the refs missed. meanwhile kane gets called for touching a guys stick. pure BS. oh, and also the ref decides to skate right in front of troy brouwer on a break. WTF
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    also, the refs missed blatant interference on hossa on that icing call against us. considering we got 2 borderline calls against us, i don't see how they missed that one.
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    yeah, niemi was flopping all over the place on that last one. pretty bad really we're lucky to only be down 1. that was a pretty terrible first period. terrible in our own zone, stupid penalties, and niemi looked very shaky.
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    granderson is still the best player in that trade, so i'd take him and cuddyer over those other guys. lee could very well be done, barajas is playing way over his head, and rasmus has been atrocious over the last 3-4 weeks.
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    Who are all these top prospect SP that the Rays and Red Sox moved to the pen without having innings as a starter? Price and..... Dude quit while you're behind already. You sound like Dusty with this "that's how they've always done it" logic. Why don't you address the previous post he made? What post was that? He asked for guys that were starters in the minors, broke into the bigleagues as relievers, and then ultimately settled in as starters. Such a list has already been provided. Are you serious dude? No, I didn't, and you know it. I already addressed why those guys aren't valid examples, and you choose to ignore it. I aslready responded to this too, and I'm still waiting for examples of top prospect SP that the Red Sox and Rays put in the major league rotation without properly stretching them out in the minors. Everyone can see that you intentionally skip posts that prove you wrong and keep making the same posts even though they've already been addressed.
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    Who are all these top prospect SP that the Rays and Red Sox moved to the pen without having innings as a starter? Price and.....
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    Okay, seriously... did you guys even read my posts? I don't think you did. Almost every one of those guys had plenty of innings as a starter. Wainwright had several years throwing over 150 innings before they turned him into a reliever. Liriano had back to back season with over 150 innings before he relieved. Santana threw over 150 innings the year before he relieved. Zambrano had already done it twice. Hughes had done it. Buchholz not only did it, but he was never even moved to the pen. I don't know where you're getting that from. Feliz hasn't done it, but it appears he isn't just temporarily relieving. He seems locked in there, at least for this season. So yeah, you guys must not have read my post. I'd have had no problem with moving Cashner to the pen at some point this season if he had sufficient innings as a starter, but he doesn't. It's the fact that he doesn't have innings a starter. Something almost all those other guys had when they were sent to the pen.
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    what a sequence
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    or 2008
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    Is Andrew Cashner our best startng pitching prospect since Prior?
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    Oh, so David Price did it, so just throw all other practices out the window. Seriously dude?
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    Wow... if that isn't one of the best examples I've ever seen of pulling an argument out of your ass just to argue a crappy perspective... :-)) :-)) Hey bud the wear and tear a guy puts on his arm is the same pitching in AAA as it is in MLB. If Cashner is ready to get bigleague hitters out, then keeping him in the minors is just wasting miles. Do you understand that if he wants to be a starter, his arm is going to need to be stretched out? Cashner only pitched 120 innings the last 2 seasons combined. Cashner. needs. innings.
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    People vastly overstate how bad every move actually is. It's the NSBB way. Standard irrelevant post from davearm.
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    He also whined about Brian Wilson- http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Brian-Wilson-isn-t-very-happy-with-Casey-Blake-r?urn=mlb,162567&cp=15 There was also another thing like this he cried about last year or the year before, but I can't remember what it was. Casey Blake likes to whine a lot.
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    Cashner needs innings.
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    awesome quotes there
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    so embarrassing
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    oh my god it would be soooo amazing
  19. 17 Seconds
    haha @ doc rivers screaming at him to get up and then slowly realizing there was something wrong
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    wtf is going on with davis? that looked insane
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    also pujols is really good at sports
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    Stop pretending like ERA doesn't matter. If we're examining four seasons of stats, it's a valid way of arguing a pitcher's decline. no it's not. pretty much every other stat has been pretty consistent over that period. Like what, WHIP? WHIP doesn't always tell the whole story either (Example: If you allow a line drive triple off the wall it counts the same as an infield single). His homers allowed have increased the past two seasons, and he is obviously not stranding as many runners on base. Both of those things matter. Some 05-09 stats on Oswalt K/9 6.9 6.8 6.5 7.1 6.8 WHIP 1.20 1.17 1.33 1.18 1.24 H/9 9.0 9.0 9.4 8.6 9.1 LD% 21.8 19.9 16.0 20.5 21.1 The only thing that's really gone up are his home run totals, but not by a huge amount. If there's a decline it's pretty small Why even pay attention to ERA when there are so many better stats that actually tell you something? ERA tells you very little. Besides, his low ERA in those years you were talking about probably should have been a bit higher anyways.
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    his twitter is remarkable
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    NYou imply that the only reason why the Sharks lost was because of luck, bad breaks, etc, etc. No I didn't. Let me explain this one last time. Games 1, 3, and 4 were played evenly enough where either team could have won each game. I'm NOT saying that the hawks didn't deserve to win, or that they got lucky. The Hawks made the plays. Niemi made the saves. We were better and we deserved to win each one. I'm not saying anything that suggests otherwise. We WON those games, the Sharks didn't lose them. However, we did not dominate them, at all, in any of those 3 games. They were close games and the Hawks were a little better and prevailed in the end. I am to an extent, but I don't see what the problem is with that. All I'm saying is that they hung with us more than the 4-0 sweep would suggest. I really don't see why that's unnacceptable to say. I'm not taking anything away from the Hawks at all. I just think you're selling the Sharks really short. If anything, I'm giving the Hawks MORE credit with what I'm saying. The Sharks showed up this series and played pretty well overall, and we STILL swept them. Sweeping the Sharks when they were close to their best is more impressive than if they had just choked and gotten crushed.
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    't ha It doesn't matter if they "skated right with the Hawks for 3 of the 4 games", what matters is they didn't get the job done. Defend them all you want, but don't use the excuse that the Sharks didn't have the luck and that is why they lost. Good, great teams can overcome bad luck, the Sharks didn't. The simple truth is...the Sharks played well enough as a whole, outside of Thornton and Heatley (so help me gawd, if people use the "injury excuse", I will scream. every team is dealing with injuries.) but Niemi had his coming out party. The Sharks did skate with the Hawks, they couldn't finished the job, thx in part to Niemi. So the crux of the debate is dex, you think Sharks were snake-bitten and that they could have won any and all of those games. That is true, but the Hawks capitalize on the breaks, Sharks didn't, luck and injuries be damned. I NEVER said the Sharks were snake bitten or that the Hawks don't deserve everything they got, yet you keep acting like I have. Once again, I'm not arguing anything you said in this post. (other than heatley... he had a serious groin injury in the Colorado series. Not the type of injury that "every team has" this time of year) You just continue to miss the point.
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