There's that can of worms I was talking about. Bullpen - The closer blew 9 (+?) saves this year. Unless the team is actually good or something, there's not much that a manager can do there. Overall, I think the roles in the bullpen are known and defined pretty well, which is key #1 to bullpen management. Marmol's suckage this year just kind of threw that off. Lineup - While it should be expected of any manager to come up with a flawless lineup everyday where the best hitter is a 21 year old SS who doesn't walk or have alot of present power, I think it can be argued that Quade wasn't working with the cream of the hitting talent crop this year. After Castro, Ramirez, and Pena the lineup featured a bunch of down year vets (Soriano, Byrd, and Soto), up and down young guys (Colvin, Barney, DeWitt), mediocrity (Jeff Baker, Fukudome), and future nobodies (Campana, Montanez, Hill). Peace = Winning. Trap 25+ guys together for 7 months, have them lose alot at what they're doing, and tell me how peaceful they are. Half of the guys (literally 1/2) who caused any kind of publicly known disturbance in the clubhouse are gone from the team forever. Why did I just do that... What can of worms? I was just interested to see if you'd actually make an argument that he wasn't bad, using real things rather than W/L. Turns out, you didn't.