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The relative lack of high level strategy makes us focus on the minutiae.

The sports editor, the main editor, or are you thinking of Katie Pizza? I don't even remember the actual editors' names. I just remember they both hated me. Most of my bosses forever have hated me because of what I now know is the autistic hyperfixation/burnout cycle. It's a little like manic-depressive. I get hyperfixated on my career, I do amazing work, give great interviews, talk myself into new and better jobs. A few months later I'm burnt out, the hyperfixation disappears, and I can literally barely drag myself in every day to click around on the computer screen and retype some press releases to avoid getting fired immediately. I always thought there was a vibe between me and Katie Pizza, but I was married at the time and would never press the issue. A few years later my then-wife cheated with a work buddy and I feel like I should get a re-do on that one. katie pizza baby! best name in the business So... Was she into Kyle and he should have shot his shot?

If they remove the horsefeathers horsefeathers filter we horsefeathers riot.

Yea, that's my read on it. I was playing around with the Over the Cap valuation metrics and all your playoff teams were getting like 240m+ in value (interestingly his valuation metric was quite a bit more than the cap on average which is interesting... Possibly it's keyed to $ and not cap hits?). But in any case, assume playoff teams are getting 110-115% excess market value, and for most of the teams, like 80% of your value is from your top 25 or so contributors (no duh).... If you had a magical roster with 25 expected value pick 65 players. You'd have only a 16% cap utilization, and you'd also have only about 68% market value roster which is basically 2022 Bears level bad (according to OTCs metric at least). So like those late second and early third picks for example are really useful and basically necessary. But further up the value chain your options for adding a "6% WAR" player is really limited so 65+66 isn't as valuable as your most valuable pick (12). If he just took the total value and not surplus value, it would maybe have been an okay start perhaps. Though I still really like OTCs methodology on their chart as theirs is also a reflection of actual market forces (based on second contract values). Even if market forces are flawed there's still value in that. See that he made some updates and incorporated some feedback. While I still don't see too much value in dropping QBs, looks like it's addressed some of the issues, and he added in total value as an option instead of just surplus value. I'd still take OTCs chart, and they have a position based adjustment tool as well so you can factor in the position being drafted (at least for the team trading up) to adjust point value. Which then helps adjust for all positions and not just QBs.

As a counterpoint, I'll bring up that this site's traffic has been consistently declining for a few years. Long-term posters inevitably leave and if they're not being replaced (which they haven't been for a few years now), a forum can become a ghost town. People WANT high quality commentary. It has been our calling card for years on Twins Daily and was the case for 20 years on Brewer Fan. The same has carried over to Brewer Fanatic, we're just giving good smart posters an option they may not have known about before. If you're irritated by the likes of Twitter and Facebook commentary, other people are, too... we try to be a place that attracts those people and bring them into the fold. We also don't hesitate to give Twitter bros the boot because we don't want to hear their thoughts any more than you do. I agree that the site has been declining in traffic, its basically become a group of people who know each other as well as anonymous internet people can know each other. I know IMB's an ass and I love him for it. I know David occasionally goes silent as he needs downtime to upgrade his RAM every so often. I know Mojo's an ass and I love him for it. I know why the game thread forum is named after Fred Hornkol. I know that goony's an ass and I love him for it. I know derwood is good for a dumb comment every so often because he doesn't read before he posts, but know I can give him horsefeathers and he'll take it in good spirits because he's a good dude at heart. I know that I don't have to look at minor league box scores because every morning Raisin will neatly summarize everything that happened the night before. I'm not against what you are doing at all, but some of that close knit core poster/inside joke stuff that makes this essentially my internet home page is what I worry we may lose if the board grows too much. I don't even know how much I care about discussing the Cubs anymore, I just like chatting with the same people I've chatted with for 20 years. But I am looking forward to seeing some improvements to the site, and hopefully not having to panic every time the site briefly goes down wondering if this is it for the forum. I'm open to seeing where this takes us. Good luck! Replace love with tolerate. Maybe even accept.

We should credit Bum with all the great stuff. Da Bum hand-timed a bunch of his friends running 90 feet and proved that diving into first is slightly faster. Wait, I'm pretty positive the sliding into first guy was someone else, too. Thatsthejoke.gif

Counterpoint: the reasons it was awesome had nothing to do with the Cubs or baseball and everything to do with the Social forum I don't know. Game threads used to actually worth browsing at one point.

Welcome and good luck. Hope this place is standing in another 20 years still. Browsing at Brewer Fanatic and Twins Daily. Do you envision upgrading the board architecture to that layout? And can we get a dark mode if so? If you give me a dark mode, I'm ready to call it instant success.

Wait really? I'm shook. Must be confused cuz of the cheese sauce and posts about drinking a gallon of apple juice to cut down his sugar intake.

Yea, that's my read on it. I was playing around with the Over the Cap valuation metrics and all your playoff teams were getting like 240m+ in value (interestingly his valuation metric was quite a bit more than the cap on average which is interesting... Possibly it's keyed to $ and not cap hits?). But in any case, assume playoff teams are getting 110-115% excess market value, and for most of the teams, like 80% of your value is from your top 25 or so contributors (no duh).... If you had a magical roster with 25 expected value pick 65 players. You'd have only a 16% cap utilization, and you'd also have only about 68% market value roster which is basically 2022 Bears level bad (according to OTCs metric at least). So like those late second and early third picks for example are really useful and basically necessary. But further up the value chain your options for adding a "6% WAR" player is really limited so 65+66 isn't as valuable as your most valuable pick (12). If he just took the total value and not surplus value, it would maybe have been an okay start perhaps. Though I still really like OTCs methodology on their chart as theirs is also a reflection of actual market forces (based on second contract values). Even if market forces are flawed there's still value in that.

My totally unbiased opinion (because I'm not a Ben Baldwin hater- he does some good stuff) This chart is total trash. He makes directionally "accurate" claims, but they are just claims that other analytical trade charts have done much better. It's not enough to just be directionally accurate when you're so far over in your end conclusions and values. My Fuller responses to it:

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I mean I kind of want to for him for anything less than 7-10 (baring anything crazy like Fields misses whole season). Pretty rare to not see a 5+ win increase when your top FA spender (which they should be). But that's not realistic. However worse case scenario is things arent looking great in 2023 and they decide they are gonna reset at QB, but then by 2024 it's obvious they're a mess and you want to move on from one or both. Don't remember what their contract lengths look like, or if it was ever reported, but not being to get aligned on QB/coach timing would be frustrating.

Also, if you have want a real deep dive and cultural immersion into NSBB culture, here's a launch point: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4279#p494810

Every board has its running jokes, please explain this one to the new guy. The greatest poster (Da Bum) who ever graced these boards and was unjustly perma-banned by Tim and his supporters have never ended calls to "Free Da Bum" Other common support rallying calls used by his supporters include "Thick Onion Gravy" and "Mother Effin Windermere"

NSBB always felt natural, but I guess it's MLB and not MLBB, after all. Tim used to have the nsbb dot come domain, but given that's no longer as asset, doesn't really matter?

White and nerdy is a culture I'm pretty sure most everyone who posts here is either a lawyer or a journalist. So yeah, good call. Accountant erasure. There's no one nerdier than us!

Is that good to bad.

huh, you found a swear word that doesn't translate to horsefeathers. Theres a couple of them I've noticed over the years except can't remember which ones they are. I've actually often now just cut to the chase and type horsefeathers. Anyways, congrats on building this thing out and maintaining it for 20 years, Tim! Obviously all your work held value that I'm sure even the sale doesn't fully capture. Cheers!

Interesting. Wonder what the median was vs average. Early returns are of games being about 30 minutes shorter right? So they should be shaving about 6 seconds off each pitch (30 min x 60 seconds = 1,800 seconds). 1,800 / 30 pitches = 6 seconds less between each pitch?

This is why it's good. There's really no downside once folks get used to it and stop their pearl clutching Yea a lot of the initial freak out is the end of game scenario we just saw. A good chunk of people will never not freak out about that sort of scenario. So really just a question on players getting used to change and presumably violations getting close to nil and almost never in high leverage situations.

Bears football!

For whatever it's worth my wife who really doesn't like baseball much sent me an Instagram reel with the new pitch clock in force and called it genius. I don't think she's even quite the target market, but I don't think it's a stretch to say some viewers may like the new product and tune in more. Will other viewers leave the product?

Definitely just a dude trolling

yea, I mean justin fields was also thought about as being a pocket passer .... but he ALSO had amazing physical traits: https://thedraftnetwork.com/2021-nfl-draft-scouting-report-qb-justin-fields/ Kyle, I feel like you want to be right about something no one else was right about. I think it would give you a sense of accomplishment, a feeling of mental superiority. That's cool I guess...you be you as they say....but also accept that you really don't know much I promise you nothing on this board has ever given me a sense of accomplishment or pride. I'm appropriately ashamed at all times. Except maybe trolling imb. The only person allowed to have a sense of accomplishment about this site is Tim. The rest of us should go outside if we ever do.