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Yeah, I don't know why anyone wouldn't be enthusiastic for getting rid of Hinrich's contract, especially for Ray Allen. Because we can get a max FA just by moving Salmons and if we get that max FA guy we want as many defensive minded players around him as possible. That's not to say there aren't other defensive minded players you can acquire, but Kirk is a great role player that we have already and seems to be well respected by his teammates. We would miss Kirk's defense, and not just this year. I'd have my reservations about it, but a deal for Ray Allen would be tons better than an older rumor of Kirk to LA for Morrison and Sasha.

So it seems that there is some serious talk about a trade centered around Hinrich for Ray Allen, with expiring fillers thrown in. Also a less talked about rumor of something involving Salmons for JJ Redick. What do you all think of these rumors? I'd do the Salmons one. The Hinrich one, I'm less enthusiastic about, but might be persuaded based on who else is involved and what other moves we make as a follow up.

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For what it's worth: Maybe we get one decent last year out of him. We probably can sign one good FA, and maybe draft another guy, but that would be a 3rd rounder at the highest. Could use any help we can. And if he does come back even worse maybe we let him go. One thing, if Beekman is the "center of the future" than he better be playing guard all year if Olin is around.

The only way we will get two max free agents is to move Deng fwiw. Besides there aren't that many free agents available worth the max. Despite all the hype there is a great possibility that Bosh, Wade, and Lebron all stay put. And even if one leaves, we will be in competition with other teams still. I wouldn't waste my time having cap space for more than one max guy. Now, if I could give myself a little extra cap space so I can fill out the roster with better than minimum contract guys, I'd be pleased. Wouldn't we have enough to sign 2 max deals if we move Kirk (9.5mil) and Salmon's options out (6.5) with Miller (12.25) and James (6.6) coming off the books. We wouldn't have enough to also resign Tyrus, I don't believe, but wouldn't we have enough for Joe Johnson and either Bosh or Amare? Okay without Salmons and Kirk, the Bulls are sitting at $22,850,976 for 5 players. They will have a cap hold for their first round pick that I'll estimate at 1.6M. For the remaining spots, they will need a minumum salary cap hold. I'll estimate each of those at $460K times 6 (to meet the 12 player minimum). That leaves them with a cap commitment of $27,210,976. The first year of Bosh is $16,568,908. Amare $17,197,241. JJ's is a bit harder, because we need to establish what the cap will be. Recent projections are actually more optimistic than before, so I'll use $55M. That would make JJ's max $16.5M. I'm going to use Bosh as he is cheaper and a better player than Amare, and JJ. So take: _27,210,976 +16,568,908 +16,500,000 $60,279,884 That is well over any possible cap number. At best, the cap number will be equal to this year $57,700,000. With current projections it looks like between 54 - 56.7M. Now it would be possible to do this and go for something like Wade/Lee or Bosh/Morrow or something like that, which you could make an argument for. Two max contracts are not happening without trading Deng. Even if you move Gibson and Johnson for cap space and sell off the first rounder, the cap would need to be $57,228,604 to fit JJ and Bosh. It makes so very little difference, but I found the exact numbers for different holds: The minimum cap hold will actually be $473,604, adding an additional $13K per cap hold. Not a huge difference in the long run, but a little. On the other hand I overestimated a little on our rookie cap hold, which is we make the playoffs will be at most $1,443,300 and as low as $1,181,800 for the 19th pick (can't imagine much lower than that). Rookie Scale/Holds Click on #41 for Min Salaries

That's awesome but random. I can't believe he was the 2nd best kick returner in the NFC this year. The Bears special teams is amazing if you consider the fact that it hasn't been just one or two guys that have excelled for them. It's Ayenbadejo, it's Hester, it's Manning, it's Knox, etc. You forgot Tim Shaw. [-X

Well you need to be under the salary cap to be a player in 2010 Free Agency, so there is no way for them to end up in the tax next season with the Max FA plan. Now if we do get a star and become a top team in the East you would have to pay the tax eventually, possibly as soon as 2011/12. If Reinsdorf doesn't do it at that point, I will be mad.

The only way we will get two max free agents is to move Deng fwiw. Besides there aren't that many free agents available worth the max. Despite all the hype there is a great possibility that Bosh, Wade, and Lebron all stay put. And even if one leaves, we will be in competition with other teams still. I wouldn't waste my time having cap space for more than one max guy. Now, if I could give myself a little extra cap space so I can fill out the roster with better than minimum contract guys, I'd be pleased. Wouldn't we have enough to sign 2 max deals if we move Kirk (9.5mil) and Salmon's options out (6.5) with Miller (12.25) and James (6.6) coming off the books. We wouldn't have enough to also resign Tyrus, I don't believe, but wouldn't we have enough for Joe Johnson and either Bosh or Amare? Okay without Salmons and Kirk, the Bulls are sitting at $22,850,976 for 5 players. They will have a cap hold for their first round pick that I'll estimate at 1.6M. For the remaining spots, they will need a minumum salary cap hold. I'll estimate each of those at $460K times 6 (to meet the 12 player minimum). That leaves them with a cap commitment of $27,210,976. The first year of Bosh is $16,568,908. Amare $17,197,241. JJ's is a bit harder, because we need to establish what the cap will be. Recent projections are actually more optimistic than before, so I'll use $55M. That would make JJ's max $16.5M. I'm going to use Bosh as he is cheaper and a better player than Amare, and JJ. So take: _27,210,976 +16,568,908 +16,500,000 $60,279,884 That is well over any possible cap number. At best, the cap number will be equal to this year $57,700,000. With current projections it looks like between 54 - 56.7M. Now it would be possible to do this and go for something like Wade/Lee or Bosh/Morrow or something like that, which you could make an argument for. Two max contracts are not happening without trading Deng. Even if you move Gibson and Johnson for cap space and sell off the first rounder, the cap would need to be $57,228,604 to fit JJ and Bosh.

The only way we will get two max free agents is to move Deng fwiw. Besides there aren't that many free agents available worth the max. Despite all the hype there is a great possibility that Bosh, Wade, and Lebron all stay put. And even if one leaves, we will be in competition with other teams still. I wouldn't waste my time having cap space for more than one max guy. Now, if I could give myself a little extra cap space so I can fill out the roster with better than minimum contract guys, I'd be pleased.

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Rose made me cream my pants tonight with that dunk.

The Celtics just retire a lot of #s because they have a [expletive] load of good players in their history. Well, that and Reggie Lewis. They have some great players, but not that many great players. Granted its a very simple view, but here are some career averages for some of their retired number players (PPG, RPG, APG, FG%) 9.6, 6.3, 1.1, .428 12.6, 3.2, 6.4, .446 6.2, 5.6, 0.7, .345 11.4, 5.2, 1.6, .484 13.7, 6.6, 2.3, .559 There are some other really bad stat lines I left off too, but the players are in the Basketball Hall of Fame, so I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and assume there was something redeeming about them. And yea just the stat lines don't tell the whole story, but shouldn't we be honoring excellence. I also am not too fond of retiring the number of a player just because he died during a season. I mean, yea its tragic, but there are other ways of honoring a teammate.

He's been touted by some as the guy who coaxed one great year out of Anderson in Cleveland. MY roommate is a Brown's fan and when I asked him about him, his answer was, "He's real good." So for what it's worth, one Browns fan endorses the hiring of Chudzinski.

So we've heard at least a half dozen candidates for OC, and only one for DC, who isn't coming here. What are they up to?

QFT, except get a better NT than Harrison.

The OC is coming in for a lame duck HC though.

Comp picks are based on free agent loss/gain, and applied the next offseason. So if you lose more than you gain in FA, you get a comp pick. Depending on the talent/contract of the players you lose, you get a higher or lower pick. Not really sure he would count as a FA "loss". Anyways it all really doesn't matter. That pick was a sunk asset nyways, and the more important thing here is that a really young man just passed away. Way too young. RIP Gaines.

Couple things: RIP Gaines Adams. Way too young to pass. On Dusty- didn't he have some drinking and violence related issues early on in his college career? He had apparently turned it around by his senior year, which is why Angelo was willing to draft him, and this is the first incident I've heard of this kind of behavior out of him. With the Gaines thing, I personally don't think it would have mattered much even with him here. I still think we needed to get a good D-lineman, either DT or DE. With Gilbert being able to slide over I think the goal would have been to get the best lineman, not necessarily a DE.

Retiring numbers is only stupid if it is misused like the Boston Celtics.

I highly suspect this to be the case as well.

Cool, I'm also willing to fill in any spots that may need to be filled as long as taking on multiple teams is ok.

I picked up the Raven's last year and I assume we haven't gained any Ravens fans since then, so I'll do them again. If there is a fan out there though, I'm willing to drop and pick up whatever team can't find a rep.

The question though is was Martz's offenses designed around the talent of his QBs or does Martz only have one system that only one type of QB fits. If a guy has a good offensive mind he should adjust his system to the talent.

Welcome to Chicago Mike Martz. Don't get Cutler killed plz k thx

Its not just about the number of carries. The guys I've suggested for the most part would offer the speed and elusiveness that Forte really hasn't shown.