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Based on league revenue. I believe the salary cap is 50% of the total league revenue. So, 180M X 32 teams = 1/2 of the money made by the league. Players get half, owners pocket the other half split evenly. That's generally the gist I think, but I think they play some games with it with the goal to make actual cash as close to the end revenue split as possible. And I think they're playing extra games this year to smooth the effect of covid revenue dips. -
Yea. And Pace clearly isn't going to wait out the market. Yeah that's my biggest issue with this. Superbowl hasn't even been played yet. A month + til the league year opens. Wait to see if Watson, Carr, Dak, someone decent you don't have to trade draft picks for becomes available. If you can't get one of those guys, then if nobody else trades for Wentz, you have a 3-day window where the Eagles are pretty desperate or else they owe Wentz his 10Mil bonus. If someone else trades for Wentz in the meantime, the worst thing that happens is you have all your draft picks, whatever cap space you've created, and aren't counting on the league's worst QB in 2020. Not the end of the world. Yuuupp.
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Just interesting to read the Philly view of this. Not necessarily as a defense or criticism of the Chicago side. https://theathletic.com/2372210/2021/02/07/trading-carson-wentz-state-of-philadelphia-eagles-organizational-failure?source=user-shared-article
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Why not get Watson if that's the case? Probably because Houston wants to do all they can to keep him and has rebuffed all proposalsYea. And Pace clearly isn't going to wait out the market.
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https://twitter.com/TarikCohen/status/1358255667006627841?s=19
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His new deal is about to rank 13th among RB. So it's not nothing. They'll also eat a bunch of dead cap for nothing (would cost them about 2M is 2021 cap space).
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The only solace is based on her comments all the Eagles fans hate it. A bunch of angry Chicago and Philly sports fans. Great week to listen to sports radio.
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I'm not even a huge Cohen fan, but bleh.
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This would be a bad deal, but I'm so scared they're about to give up 2 1s that I'll somehow be happy if that's it.
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Schefter getting into the action(very lightly)
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Do you trust the Bears to develop a QB? More than I trust their ability to squeak out a SB with someone else’s failed QB Maybe they can still just start drafting some every year? Mond in the 3rd or Newman in 4/5. Grab another next year when/if Wentz sucks again. Draft another in 2023.. Just keep throwing horsefeathers against the wall.
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No idea if this guy is anybody (not a blue check mark even), but hey what the hell:
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I'd maybe consider like a pick swap. 20 to 37 is like a late 2nd round value per the trade chart, and the new age analytical charts would say it's even less probably. Maybe even get a mid rounder. Wentz +37 + 69 for Foles + 20
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Man this QB market is gonna be dumb. Might as well go full dumb and either trade a Hershell Walker haul for Watson or just sit back and sift through whatever the fallout is.
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Well that will be interesting if he plays the year out on the tag and isn't traded or signed. It really constricts the cap for the rest of the roster.
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While I'm skeptical of the 1st round value for Carr, that appears to be where the market is at based on the Stafford trade. And it's reportedly not just the Bears/Pace. Stafford's cost was inflated by also taking back Goff. If you aren't paying the Raiders to take back a franchise crippling contract, there is no reason the two should be at all related. And if the Raiders are making the deal in order to facilitate getting an actual star QB, then there is no reason to play along in their overvaluing the guy they want to replace. Based on all reports the market for Stafford was a 1st and something else from multiple teams. So that's probably Carrs rough market as well. Yes Goff was probably responsible for the extra first that they got. I tend to agree on the latter point. Especially if it's the Raiders as the winning team. They're basically just giving up 4 likely non top 10 picks. I'd like the think the Bears 4 first rounders could match that, or they could offer better young D players. So unless the issue is just Watson just shutting out the Bears with his NTC...
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The linked story's entire premise is based on getting two 1sts so the Raiders could flip them for Watson. It’s kinda like buying your dream house contingent upon selling your current home (that you can’t sell for the price you want). I don’t see this happening. I don't either, but I'm frequently proven wrong with these sorts of things. I don't get it from the Raiders view though. Yea Watson is way better than Carr, but they already have a top 10 offense with Carr and need help on D. Even if they were to become the number 1 offense in football with Watson, how's he fixing that 30th ranked D?
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The linked story's entire premise is based on getting two 1sts so the Raiders could flip them for Watson. Pace is desperate so trading a 1st for Carr is very within the realm of possibility. While I'm skeptical of the 1st round value for Carr, that appears to be where the market is at based on the Stafford trade. And it's reportedly not just the Bears/Pace.
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But won't it most likely come down to just a boatload of picks? Lauri and any other salary marchers and picks + pick swaps. Lavine Beal Williams (ideally keep him) Max FA slot (I assume they can get that) I don't know, I'm pretty NBA ignorant thess days. Is that a successful rebuild? Depends on how you define a successful rebuild. Would we be title contenders if we got Beal and Lonzo lets say? No, but it would be a pretty good team... I think depending on the role players that rounded out the team it could be in the mix in the East, depending on whether that Kyrie/Durant/Harden pairing can figure out how to co-exist together. The concern to me is that Lavine is only under contract through next year and Beal would be only guaranteed through next year too (he has a player option for 1 more year beyond that). So the team would have to come together quickly otherwise it will be difficult to build a team without 1st round picks and limited cap space. Yea, but they can open up that max cap space before that I think. Notbsure what FA is even available and worth it. But with his contract, ideally you want to get the other pieces before you have to extend him again.
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More is more when it comes to shooting so I'd absolutely love to see that but I think most of our trade value is going to be with fringe contenders if you're dangling guys like Lauri, Thad, Temple, WCJ, etc. But won't it most likely come down to just a boatload of picks? Lauri and any other salary marchers and picks + pick swaps. Lavine Beal Williams (ideally keep him) Max FA slot (I assume they can get that) I don't know, I'm pretty NBA ignorant thess days. Is that a successful rebuild?
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So Zach is a keeper. With Beal on the market, can the co-exist? Everyone one else/pick would be on the table right?
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How do the young D assets of the Jets or Dolphins line up to Smith and Johnson? I don't know, it's kind of tough. Based on the sneak peak we got of the D without Smith and Johnson, I'm not sure the team would be that much better, even with an improved offense. Marginally so perhaps, but they Bears would run low on options to build the D. Are they a division round team instead of a wildcard team, maybe? I don't have the answer to either question but they'd have the most important building block in place. So that alone pushes me into the "dooooooo iiiiiit" camp. You're just never gonna win a ring without one and you're probably not getting one at 20 this year. Although Pace will be 100% willing to trade whatever it takes to get his guy as well being in his last year. Honestly I imagine both teams could put a comparable player pkg together. Tom could probably weigh in on that. That shoulder of Johnson is damn scary to me, as an aside. He flashed star upside no doubt but how often will he actually be available? Personally I don't think we're getting Watson. Yea I'm probably in the do it camp still, but like with no more expectations than what the Cutler years gave us. Maybe one good run and they a lot of other disfunction and 8-8 finishes. But I could finally go get that Watson no 4 Bears jersey I would have lined up to buy on draft night 2017.
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Do it Bears. Although I think Watson ends up in San Fran. Starting with 20 i have to believe we would have to go beyond that presumed proposal So 3 firsts + mid rounders + Smith and Nichols/Johnson? I still do it. Just pointing out that that is probably a deal they take from the Jets, but not the Bears. How do the young D assets of the Jets or Dolphins line up to Smith and Johnson? I don't know, it's kind of tough. Based on the sneak peak we got of the D without Smith and Johnson, I'm not sure the team would be that much better, even with an improved offense. Marginally so perhaps, but they Bears would run low on options to build the D. Are they a division round team instead of a wildcard team, maybe?
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Do it Bears. Although I think Watson ends up in San Fran. SF doesn't seem like the franchise that will stomach an offer like it will take. And like the Bears don't have a top 10 pick. They've apparently said they're sticking with Garopollo. Jets/Miami are still best positioned for Watson, IMO.
