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  1. Definitely trolling, after what he’s said about Pace not even taking to him before the draft I doubt he’d try to force a trade here specifically. I’m sure he’d play here if the bears did trade for him though He apparently has a NTC too
  2. Your guy? Who is that? Also because we're the Bears; watch GB trade for Watson Watson was the pick I wanted most in 2017 (though I kind of warmed to the idea of Trubisky eventually I still preferred Watson)
  3. So not only do I not get the joy of the Bears drafting my guy, but now I gotta watch him troll us on Twitter :(
  4. and on the Bears side, they would suddenly have a QB and surrounding talent to possibly dethrone GB ok I'm done daydreaming. call already Ryan Bears give up the 3 1st and 3 2nds and Houston gives back 3 3rds and also hires one of the Bears minority coaches as HC so we get comp picks (make sure this isn't put in writing!)
  5. Perhaps Watson has reason to believe all those cuts are coming hence the trade demand. I wonder what they can get back for Tunsil at this point too?
  6. Yep, so Hou starting at Hershell Walker territory, which would make sense from their standpoint. I guess Watson has a no trade clause? That gives him some additional leverage. But he ultimately doesn't have a ton else. Will be interesting to see if it progresses at all.
  7. Two firsts (one was 18 at the time), a 3rd, and Orton for Jay and a 5th. Based on talent level alone, Watson should demand more. With the contract and it being a trade demand, that could complicate the return, but I'm not sure to what extent it will. i'd probably start somewhere around that then. My initial insitnct was 2 1st and 2 3rds. 4-5 1sts is like Hershell Walker territory (3 1sts and 3 2nds, among some players and other picks). I think if it's more than a net 3 pick loss it has to include picks the other way. So if it rally took 4 1sts, maybe Houston is sending back 2 2nds as well... Something along those lines.
  8. Two firsts (one was 18 at the time), a 3rd, and Orton for Jay and a 5th. Based on talent level alone, Watson should demand more. With the contract and it being a trade demand, that could complicate the return, but I'm not sure to what extent it will.
  9. Apparently Rappaport threw out 4-5 firsts? I'm sure it could be less than that if it was a team with a top 5 pick now. Sitting at 20 likes the Bears probably ups the rest quite a bit.
  10. This plus aren't the Saints somewhat limited by Brees? Not in the same manner of the Bears of course, nevertheless, I thought there's throws, etc. Brees has trouble with? Maybe but isn't their offense more of a intermediate catch in space/YAC style? I could be way off. So when you look at the explosive play rate, while GB and NO are similar overall, they're somewhat different in rush/pass. https://www.sharpfootballstats.com/explosive-play-rankings--off-.html NO is 13/19/15 run/pass/overall. GB is 20/4/10 So yea, Kamara has potential to burn you, but Brees definitely isn't as likely to burn you as Rogers was. So I think that lends itself that you can be a little more agressive. I haven't given it tons of thought though. But I don't think it's dramatically different of a game plan.. Don't put the weight too much on Mitch, but they can probably withstand a short drive or two. Though if Smith is out perhaps the D can't. Hope we see like 80% nickel this game and probably better if it's more Woods than Trevathan if they drop a ILB for nickel/dime.
  11. I definitely think they can be more agressive against the Saints, on both sides of the ball. They don't have to worry as much about Brees torching them as Rodgers. The GB game plan was basically like the game plan of a midmajor upsetting in the tourney. Slow the game down enough that there's less overall possessions so you open up the roll that luck/variance plays. If you limit mistakes and capitalize on one or two bounces, you pull off the upset. So, yea, probably similar game plan, but with a little more margin for error where you could take more shots and actually try to stress their D and O a little bit and create opportunities rather than just hope opportunities appear.
  12. It was probably the right game plan. But helps underscore his limitations and that the prior 3 game run was a mirage. I'm back down to maxing his guaranteed money on a new deal to like 10M tops (and I still feel awfully generous).
  13. I'm not worried about that. Why would he take that job to be Pace's underling when there's several open gigs and he could be the unquestioned leader of a football ops? At the same time, if they did promote Pace and hire Borgonzi as a GM, the fact that he took that job would tell me he's comfortable with the level of control he'd have over the roster and other decisions going forward, so go for it. I suppose so. I'll also add I don't necessarily get the Borgonzi love other than, "hey grab the number 2 from the hottest team currently". Maybe it's just Nagy over correction, but I just don't love a guy who's only relevant experience basically is working with/under Reid. Give me the Dodd guy from IND over him.
  14. Pre-existing relationship better not be part of the criteria if they make a change at GM. While I agree, Borgonzi appears to be one of, if not the best GM candidate so I'm in. I'm more worried about rumors that they'd promote Pace and bring in Borgonzi as GM. I'm not worried about that. Why would he take that job to be Pace's underling when there's several open gigs and he could be the unquestioned leader of a football ops?
  15. Pre-existing relationship better not be part of the criteria if they make a change at GM.
  16. Teams are shifting away from giving QBs all the power? Anyways as to the structure, at the very least the NFL complicates it somewhat by having specific hiring rules for both the top level exec and top level coach jobs (both as it relates to access and the diversity requirements re:Rooney rule). So from the perspective alone it's a lot different since the NFL mandates some level of designation of roles whereas other leagues are seemingly a lot more informal and dictated more by unwirtten rules and protocol. Anyways, its usually a matter of playing with titles, but you occassionally see some writer/bloggers offseason plan where they hire a super experienced President and also one of the hottest up and coming names as a GM candidate to be their GM, which just seems like detached from reality. Like, fine, propose some structure that no other NFL team uses, but be realistic about what type of profile is filling that GM role.
  17. Ah yea, Champ came over with Fox from Denver, so that makes sense, as there is familiarity.
  18. I assume you mean with an outside hire, not elevating Pace? Baltimore is kind of like that now, but I think Ozzies title is like special advisor or something, which I assume will be the effect role of Elway. Atlanta promoted their former GM to Pres, though I'm not sure if he's still involved in a lot of personnel stuff or it was a legit movement to the business side. But yea, I think that's the extent of franchises organized in some manner like that currently. So it was all internal movements that led to some type of GM who has some higher football exec above them (not including cases where that guy is head coach too)
  19. I've criticized the Bears way too many times for running the ball up the middle to freak out over them deciding to do something different, especially after doing it on that very drive. That just seems like being upset over the loss and finding one thing that could have gone better, and heaping the whole thing on it. If people really think the game hinged upon the Bears running the conservative play, then maybe they should have just taken the FG. It would have put the Bears 2 points down. FG would have been bad. Trying to keep GB from scoring would have been hard enough. They could have ran out the clock. Unless you were gonna go for the FG and just onside it. Basically they were always going need an "extra" possession to beat GB. They actually got that extra position in the 1st half, but they only got a FG out of it. I actually think they arguably should have gone for the TD at the end of the half too.
  20. Running it down their throats I think is putting it fairly optimistically. Yes they'd converted, but they didn't look particularly strong at it. So. I can get behind a pass. I can even get behind shotgun. But the sprint out, basically one route read felt terribly scripted and forced. Even if there was a missed pick, I don't love it. Throw in an RPO of you want to keep GB on their toes from crowding the line on a dive or sneak.
  21. If they do make a change in the D, I just want to get out ahead and say it should be a broad search and it can be a 3-4 or 4-3 guy. I think a few guys like Mack and Quinn may actually be better in a 4-3 and most of their rotation guys are FA anyways even if they were scheme dependent. Yeah doesn't matter what scheme they run other than the fact they'd probably need more off the ball LBs than they currently have. But I will say I'd like them to give Jay Rodgers an interview at DC. He's spanned the Fox and Nagy regimes. He came over with Fox and has done a great job developing guys at his position (Hicks from average to stud, RRH a UDFA, Nichols a 5th rounder, Goldman; Edwards, Urban, and Nick Williams have had their best years with him). And the other Fangio assistant that became a DC has the #1 D in LA in his first season. Yea Jay Rodgers for sure would be worth interviewing. With his time in Denver he had 4-3 experience, so perhaps he'd even run a true hybrid scheme. I also don't know if there's anything to it, but the other month I had come across some article about young names to watch as HC candidates, and Sean Desai's name was on the list. He goes all the way back to the Trestman regime, but this is only his second year as a position coach, and it's "just" safeties at that. Anyways I was surprised when I had seen it, but maybe there's something there?
  22. this is true. Lovie for DC? Lol. Maybe Marinelli, I think he'll be available again.
  23. If they do make a change in the D, I just want to get out ahead and say it should be a broad search and it can be a 3-4 or 4-3 guy. I think a few guys like Mack and Quinn may actually be better in a 4-3 and most of their rotation guys are FA anyways even if they were scheme dependent. Get rid of Pagano, first of all. As for the 3-4 vs 4-3, they currently have the one guy you need to make a 3-4 work: Eddie Goldman. In fact, his absence is probably bigger then anyone else on the D this year outside of Hicks. Might as well stay with that. Also, I loved seeing Vildor break on the ball in the flat. I know he was otherwise toyed with throughout the game, but he could end up developing into a solid nickel. Yea at this point Vildor looks more promising than Shelley as a cheap nickel replacement if they cut Skrine. Kind of hope they get to see him in the WC game to get some more snaps on tape. As for Goldman, sure, but I think he'd be a great NT in a 4 man front. There's increasingly less and less difference between a 3 or 4 man front anyways, but to the extent it matters its usually you're edge guys that matter most, and Quinn and Mack both had their most success as 4-3 DE.
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