WrigleyField 22
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Solution: make the NBA more like a normal labor market. The highest level players can negotiate contracts with expensive buyouts to tamper down too much team building, but otherwise just let the players dictate the league movements, even leaving existing contracts. Its probably what the fans want anyway.
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31974570/kevin-durant-plans-4-year-198m-extension-brooklyn-nets-manager-says KD 2027
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I was just hoping for a 2nd round pick back. Anything else is kind of gravy, although I guess the amount and length of $ heading back will make a difference. As stated before they can't really take back long term commitments and stay under the tax (unless White gets moved for expiring or future assets)
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He's an RFA so we should still be able to trade him for something, no? 1. If there's any team with cap space left, the Bulls don't really have leverage for a S&T 2. The Bulls do have the leverage of matching an offer, but really depends on where they see his value, and if they have him on a multi year deal they are into tax territory next year when they resign LaVine. Some rumors that CHA is still interested, even after agreeing with Oubre, who used up most of their cap space. At this point there really isn't a scenario where Lauir gets more than MLE money without a S&T - I think only OKC can offer more. But at a certain point, maybe Lauri signs the QO and reenters FA next year unrestricted. But that's a tough sell. His role would shrink in 2022, so I don't know if losing the RFA tag makes up for it.
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Doug Pederson on bears staff now?
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What should I work on next?
WrigleyField 22 replied to Tim's topic in North Side Baseball Issues & Suggestions
I suppose I should update from 3.1.7 one of these days. 3.3.4 is the current version. God knows how many I've skipped over the past, I don't know, 10 years or so. Based on another PhpBB board I frequent that recently upgraded, and it's nice... -
Depending on the size of an offer, I think he can bluff his way to a 2nd rounder. It's something at least, they've given up a bunch of picks this week. Also, I'm sure this isn't the I first talk they've had. They still need to complete the Lonzo S&T. I think they could possibly just get a TPE from it as well.
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Was at a wedding in Milwaukee last weekend and the drunk FOB Packer fan trying to get a rise out of me wasn't even remotely successful. Enjoy your last season of Aaron, suckers, the Fields era is coming.
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Shoot it directly into my veins baby.
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I've hardly watched any Olympics l, but damn it sounds like Lavine is having a great Olympic showing. Most the articles I read going in questioned if he'd even have a minor role. https://www.nba.com/bulls/news/lavine-soars-team-usa-advances-gold-medal-game Just start the KD 2023 rumors now.
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Cool, depth.
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Yep. If we wanna get lazy with the comps, AK looks like he may be more like a Riley. Just constantly in the picture, always moving. I know a lot of fans still want "the Process" type building, but I'm okay with the opposite. Obviously could fail, but so could "the Process."
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I think the Lavine extension has sailed, unless Lavine is prepared to give up a ton of money to lock in now. Hell technically reach FA, but Bulls will still be able to offer the biggest max deal and I'm sure they will. I was reading that even with this move they can still get one done this offseason. I have completely lost track of how the CBA works so I cant do the math myself. Who knows. It's certainly way more confusing than it used to be. Either way, I'm not too worried about extension or him technically reaching FA as long as Bulls can offer the biggest max in 2022.
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I cant see him signing here. If they did sign him it would make it really really difficult to extend Lavine, and definitely unable to extend Lavine before he becomes an UFA I think the Lavine extension has sailed, unless Lavine is prepared to give up a ton of money to lock in now. Hell technically reach FA, but Bulls will still be able to offer the biggest max deal and I'm sure they will.
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This trade makes the 2023 first irrelevant IMO because it likely won't be a lottery pick. 2025 might hurt but whatever. Hording draft picks is a GarPax thing, and we just did it for 4 years and got Lauri, Carter, White and Pat Williams. People on the radio are arguing that we just built the same type of team that we all wanted blown up when Butler was here, but that Bulls team was really really hollow with no strong assets outside of Butler. Build a winning culture with this team and put yourself in a position to land a superstar if one is out there and wants to come here. If it fails miserably hopefully they can deal LaVine for a decent blow up package still in a couple years.
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Honestly, if they can just get a pick or even some seconds, I'd take that with the picks AK just dealt. Hell, shop White for some draft capital too at this point. You'll generate some TPEs in those deals too. Top 10 Guards - LaVine, Ball, Caruso, Forwards - Derozan, Williams, Brown, BAE signing? Big - Vooch, Simonović, Vet Min Then Ayo, Green, Dotson, and whatever other two way or vet min guys. Edit, they may also be able to get Caruso with the Theis TPE and then split the MLE two ways for a depth wing and big, along with the BAE.
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And if he's wrong, I'm thinking the AK marriage will be a lot shorter than the Pax one. Which I'm pretty okay with.
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The Bulls would have to like trade for like... Leonard or something to get me Bears/Fields level excitement, but the sports are different.
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It's really going to be interesting to see what these guys sign for. I would love a timeline and corresponding values for any Cubs offers made to them. I could see the Yankees actually overpaying for Rizzo if he continues to produce for them (3/60 or 4/75 ish). I think KB eventually gets 5/130 from somone (probably the Giants) and Baez gets 5/110 from the Mets. That's a bummer if it's what it takes for Bryant/Baez.
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Do it AK. Make Bulls bball fun again.
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Good added points CCP. A few added nuances that go past a primer. Various exemptions can only be used for various types of transactions. A MLE, for example, is only used on a FA. A TPE is used only on players under contract in which you complete a trade. So it brings up an interesting situation. It's reported the Bulls are losing Theis to the Rockets. They can't stop him since he's unrestricted. But all parties are usually incentivized to make the signing a S&T, which generates a TPE for the Bulls to be used later. They just have to throw in a nonmaterial asset. That's reportedly happening. Then we get to the Caruso signing. His base salary will fit the TPE generated from Theis. So do you reach out to LA and also facilitate a S&T, which would use up your Theis TPE and create one for LA equal to Caruso's salary? Clear win for LA who has a new asset for trades down the road. For the Bulls they could keep their MLE instead of using it on Caruso. So is a MLE for a FA now better than a TPE for a trade later (must be used in 1 year)? I'd probably lean towards keeping the MLE, but really depends on the market in FA left. But you could also split up the MLE and make two smaller depth signings, which they probably need. But it isn't necessarily open and shut and the possible cap manipulations available are quite broad in nature.
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Defense. Edit: also Arc put up a -0.1 VORP (0.9WS) and Caruso 0.6 (2.4 WS). Not sure what stats Arc was better in. The other thing is that the NBA makes horsefeathering gazillions of dollars a year and doesn't have that many players to spend it on, so anyone worth even close to half a damn makes a ton of money. Plus, salaries tend to congregate around the exemption amounts. Caruso is worth more than the BAE, so he's probably going to make at or near the MLE because that's where the market leads to. And guys worth more than the MLE, but not quite max might often fall towards that MLE number anyways, unless they can work out a S&T or resign with their current club.
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A lot of it has become so complex and I haven't kept up with it like I used to. But I'll try. Primer: most teams operate over the cap. Between the cap and the luxury tax there are several exemptions you can use. And then once you reach the luxury tax there are more restrictions and different exemptions available to use. If you're under the cap, you don't need exemptions although there is one new exemption that was created for teams who operated under the cap to sign deals for slightly more than the vet minimum salary. So as for trades there is a really broad category of "traded player exemptions" for teams over the cap. One of the rules, generally, is a salary matching requirement of two teams trading who are both over the cap. But if one team is under the cap, or a large multi player trade can be structured in the "right" way, it creates a "TPE" , which basically just creates a exemption equal the salary of a player, to be used to complete the trade at a later date. They used to call it simultaneous v non-simultaneous trades, not sure if that's still the language used. The whole TPE generation is generally where stiff gets confusing, even for fans who pay attention closely. This is a great FAQ, but it's pretty detailed and a bit more than a primer. http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm
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So MLE or S&T?
